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This. Drives. Me. NUTS. Just make games! Its that simple. Those are the experiences, those are the killer apps, they are the metaverse! They literally just nee

by cptaj 3y ago

This. Drives. Me. NUTS. Just make games! Its that simple. Those are the experiences, those are the killer apps, they are the metaverse! They literally just need to get out of the way with their corporate bullshit.

LightBug1 3y ago
Yeah, actually you're on to something. I admired the hardware but you just nailed the feeling I was getting from this presentation but couldn't describe. It's the old print magazine adverts for the Atari ST or Amiga or early PC's... and shown on the screen was a spreadsheet...(and don't get me wrong, I love a good spreadsheet, but.... )
- cubefox 3y ago
  I think any games released for that system will be crippled by the controls, like smartphone games. Gestures and eye tracking are probably just as imprecise as touchscreens.
  - LightBug1 3y ago
    To be fair, watching the presentation, I'm pretty sure I saw a handheld controller in use for gaming.
    - cubefox 3y ago
      That was probably Apple Arcade, which offers normal flat screen games. Those are nothing compared to VR games, which require different controllers: https://www.roadtovr.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/quest-3-high-res3.jpg https://www.roadtovr.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/quest-3-...
tmpz22 3y ago
If the goal posts was just to make a billion dollars they could make games. But the goal post is to make 100 billion dollars. So here we are.
moffkalast 3y ago
Apple has done everything in their power to strangle and kill gaming on MacOS, they'd probably rather scrap the whole product than bring it back.
- theshrike79 3y ago
  Everything in their power like bringing Hideo Kojima's latest game to macOS as a native port?
  - moffkalast 3y ago
    No, like completely trashing OpenGL and OpenCL to make sure nothing ever runs on their machines unless it's specifically spon fed to them through Metal (while having like an 8% market share so it's not cost effective to do so). Even Linux is better for gaming with Proton.
    - pzo 3y ago
      They announced some tools that help testing and porting windows games to macos and some tools that supposed to convert opengl and DirectX shader to metal shaders.
prawn 3y ago
I agree! What they should do is launch this at a developer event and provide some information and tooling, then get out of the way so that developers can release games through a proven distribution method with free/freemium/paid/subscription options...

by cptaj 3y ago

LightBug1 3y ago

Yeah, actually you're on to something. I admired the hardware but you just nailed the feeling I was getting from this presentation but couldn't describe. It's the old print magazine adverts for the Atari ST or Amiga or early PC's... and shown on the screen was a spreadsheet...(and don't get me wrong, I love a good spreadsheet, but.... )

cubefox 3y ago
I think any games released for that system will be crippled by the controls, like smartphone games. Gestures and eye tracking are probably just as imprecise as touchscreens.
- LightBug1 3y ago
  To be fair, watching the presentation, I'm pretty sure I saw a handheld controller in use for gaming.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    That was probably Apple Arcade, which offers normal flat screen games. Those are nothing compared to VR games, which require different controllers: https://www.roadtovr.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/quest-3-high-res3.jpg https://www.roadtovr.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/quest-3-...

tmpz22 3y ago

If the goal posts was just to make a billion dollars they could make games. But the goal post is to make 100 billion dollars. So here we are.

moffkalast 3y ago

Apple has done everything in their power to strangle and kill gaming on MacOS, they'd probably rather scrap the whole product than bring it back.

theshrike79 3y ago
Everything in their power like bringing Hideo Kojima's latest game to macOS as a native port?
- moffkalast 3y ago
  No, like completely trashing OpenGL and OpenCL to make sure nothing ever runs on their machines unless it's specifically spon fed to them through Metal (while having like an 8% market share so it's not cost effective to do so). Even Linux is better for gaming with Proton.
  - pzo 3y ago
    They announced some tools that help testing and porting windows games to macos and some tools that supposed to convert opengl and DirectX shader to metal shaders.

prawn 3y ago

I agree! What they should do is launch this at a developer event and provide some information and tooling, then get out of the way so that developers can release games through a proven distribution method with free/freemium/paid/subscription options...