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> I was always uncomfortable trusting any of the existing apps I still cannot understand why people are so trusting of things they put on their phone. It is so

> I was always uncomfortable trusting any of the existing apps I still cannot understand why people are so trusting of things they put on their phone. It is so much easier for anyone to get into your phone as opposed to your house or a safe in your house. You all are giving so much up just for this convenience, which will one day become inconvenient.

syspec 3y ago
Probably because I've had my house broken into, but I've never had my data stolen off of my phone. Even when I have lost my phone, no one has been able to take anything out.
- FollowingTheDao 3y ago
  > I've never had my data stolen off of my phone How would you know? In fact, you do not know this for certain. It is just wishful thinking. Marketing.
  - derefr 3y ago
    You seem to be conflating exfiltrating data from cloud services that the phone syncs with (which many state actors probably do en masse), with exfiltrating data held only on the device itself (which is something that you'd only expect from people who actively care about your data, e.g. police looking for evidence after you've been arrested, criminal gangs who want your crypto-wallet keys, etc.) Modern phones are pretty good at stopping the latter class of attack; this is self-evident from the fact that this type of attacker is looking for specific things in order to use them in a timely manner (use the evidence against you at trial; drain your crypto wallet to spend the funds themselves before you can move the funds elsewhere), and yet we rarely see people reporting that someone made use of their exfiltrated data in this way. PCs are much more vulnerable to this type of attack. There are tons of computer viruses that steal your crypto wallet.
avinoth 3y ago
Apples to oranges imo. We’re talking about a journal (with photos and audio and whatnot) here. Also, i think keeping it in a physical format is more vulnerable from others accidentally reading it than in a phone which is the most private to me as an individual.

syspec 3y ago

Probably because I've had my house broken into, but I've never had my data stolen off of my phone. Even when I have lost my phone, no one has been able to take anything out.

FollowingTheDao 3y ago
> I've never had my data stolen off of my phone How would you know? In fact, you do not know this for certain. It is just wishful thinking. Marketing.
- derefr 3y ago
  You seem to be conflating exfiltrating data from cloud services that the phone syncs with (which many state actors probably do en masse), with exfiltrating data held only on the device itself (which is something that you'd only expect from people who actively care about your data, e.g. police looking for evidence after you've been arrested, criminal gangs who want your crypto-wallet keys, etc.) Modern phones are pretty good at stopping the latter class of attack; this is self-evident from the fact that this type of attacker is looking for specific things in order to use them in a timely manner (use the evidence against you at trial; drain your crypto wallet to spend the funds themselves before you can move the funds elsewhere), and yet we rarely see people reporting that someone made use of their exfiltrated data in this way. PCs are much more vulnerable to this type of attack. There are tons of computer viruses that steal your crypto wallet.

avinoth 3y ago

Apples to oranges imo. We’re talking about a journal (with photos and audio and whatnot) here. Also, i think keeping it in a physical format is more vulnerable from others accidentally reading it than in a phone which is the most private to me as an individual.