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Apples innovations are often in making things that other people have tried before and making them polished and usable. So, despite it being failed in Android;

by dijit 3y ago

Apples innovations are often in making things that other people have tried before and making them polished and usable. So, despite it being failed in Android; it'll probably work well in Apples ecosystem. -- Apples true innovations (3D touch for example) have a much higher chance of not being used and going away.

marpstar 3y ago
That and the fact that there is one version of iOS, and Android has traditionally been very fragmented. Without widespread availability from "day one", these things just don't catch on. See also: the resurgence of QR codes post iOS 11...
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Isn't there now iPad OS?
Turing_Machine 3y ago
Yes. Apple rarely makes the first $THING, but they often make the first $THING that doesn't suck.
meatmanek 3y ago
Do you mean multitouch? 3D touch went away with the iPhone 11, and I'm still salty about it. The hold-spacebar-to-move-cursor thing is just ever so slightly less efficient than the previous force-touch-anywhere-on-keyboard-to-move-cursor. (But I get why they removed it -- that was pretty much the only good actual use of 3d touch. Elsewhere in the iOS UI, it just made things more complicated, and I was constantly accidentally force-touching things instead of long-pressing them, etc. Probably not worth the added hardware costs.)
- fshbbdssbbgdd 3y ago
  > The hold-spacebar-to-move-cursor thing is just ever so slightly less efficient The UX on that is terrible. If you’re reading this on an iPhone in safari, go to the URL bar and try to navigate to my user ID there. I’ll wait. Now try to do it on a site where the URL has a dozen parameters.
  - despideme 3y ago
    I hate that I have to use this -- but I do and it's a lifesaver in the right situation: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/url-quick-keyboard/id6447770713 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/url-quick-keyboard/id644777071...
    - fshbbdssbbgdd 3y ago
      Wow, problem solved!
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  No, he means 3D touch, hence the comment saying it would go away.
rhaway84773 3y ago
In addition Apple puts in a lot of effort towards educating users. And before they release a technology in the wild they make sure they build a lot of useful demonstrations for it. So a user learns about the feature because Apple educated them well, and then immediately gets to practice it and commit it to their long term memory because they have some immediate actual uses for it. The Android approach is to release a technology, do a bunch of non functional demos and/or PoCs demonstrating how it can be used, and by the time actual useful implementations of the technology have been created users have forgotten the technology ever existed.
- WastingMyTime89 3y ago
  No offense but the iPhone UX is notorious for having obscure features most users don’t know about and which are never exposed. Not that Android is better but as a distinction between the two that’s a poor one. They are both terrible when it comes to properly exposing features.

by dijit 3y ago

marpstar 3y ago

That and the fact that there is one version of iOS, and Android has traditionally been very fragmented. Without widespread availability from "day one", these things just don't catch on. See also: the resurgence of QR codes post iOS 11...

hammyhavoc 3y ago
Isn't there now iPad OS?

Turing_Machine 3y ago

Yes. Apple rarely makes the first $THING, but they often make the first $THING that doesn't suck.

meatmanek 3y ago

Do you mean multitouch? 3D touch went away with the iPhone 11, and I'm still salty about it. The hold-spacebar-to-move-cursor thing is just ever so slightly less efficient than the previous force-touch-anywhere-on-keyboard-to-move-cursor. (But I get why they removed it -- that was pretty much the only good actual use of 3d touch. Elsewhere in the iOS UI, it just made things more complicated, and I was constantly accidentally force-touching things instead of long-pressing them, etc. Probably not worth the added hardware costs.)

fshbbdssbbgdd 3y ago
> The hold-spacebar-to-move-cursor thing is just ever so slightly less efficient The UX on that is terrible. If you’re reading this on an iPhone in safari, go to the URL bar and try to navigate to my user ID there. I’ll wait. Now try to do it on a site where the URL has a dozen parameters.
- despideme 3y ago
  I hate that I have to use this -- but I do and it's a lifesaver in the right situation: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/url-quick-keyboard/id6447770713 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/url-quick-keyboard/id644777071...
  - fshbbdssbbgdd 3y ago
    Wow, problem solved!
hammyhavoc 3y ago
No, he means 3D touch, hence the comment saying it would go away.

rhaway84773 3y ago

In addition Apple puts in a lot of effort towards educating users. And before they release a technology in the wild they make sure they build a lot of useful demonstrations for it. So a user learns about the feature because Apple educated them well, and then immediately gets to practice it and commit it to their long term memory because they have some immediate actual uses for it. The Android approach is to release a technology, do a bunch of non functional demos and/or PoCs demonstrating how it can be used, and by the time actual useful implementations of the technology have been created users have forgotten the technology ever existed.

WastingMyTime89 3y ago
No offense but the iPhone UX is notorious for having obscure features most users don’t know about and which are never exposed. Not that Android is better but as a distinction between the two that’s a poor one. They are both terrible when it comes to properly exposing features.