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I do not "believe" anything if I can help it. Here, the guy has supporting testimony from a whole array of decorated people in important positions. The context

I do not "believe" anything if I can help it. Here, the guy has supporting testimony from a whole array of decorated people in important positions. The context checks out. To assume he was "lying" is what is preposterous. You frame the events as if some noname-guy came up in a vacuum claiming incredible stuff. That is not at all what is happening. You not knowing about all that and not even recognizing that this circumstance is affecting your judgement is remarkable.

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jl6 3y ago
Given the history of this subject, it’s not unreasonable to assume that a mundane explanation like “he’s lying” is more likely than the extraordinary explanation of a worldwide decades-long conspiracy theory. I mean, I hope it’s true. Aliens would be cool. But we’ve been here before.
PKop 3y ago
I'm sorry, are you under the impression that high level government agents don't lie? That he isn't no-name makes the lie more plausible of course. We're talking hypothetical and possibilities here, that you're completely rejecting the possibility of a government lie is pretty silly. >supporting testimony from a whole array of decorated people in important positions C'mon man lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destr...
- Loquebantur 3y ago
  I don't think you understand in the slightest what is being said here. If you assume, this guy was lying on behalf of the government you might want to try to rationalize that, because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. That idea about the US wanting to impress other nations with bogus UFO tech is ridiculously stupid. You completely underestimate other countries for instance.
  - qup 3y ago
    You're largely attacking the person here, instead of their argument. I think "lying on behalf of the government" happens like...constantly. (See: war in ukraine) I don't really think this guy is lying, but ruling it out is...well, "ridiculously stupid." It doesn't have to be rationalized. There's a littany of reasons we could invent that could justify lying about UFOs. This government has many foolish people in positions of power. Those people in, in theory, can do foolish things that don't make any sense whatsoever. And the claim we're up against is literally aliens. You gotta bring receipts on that, and war medals aren't enough. I'm highly interested to see this develop, and I haven't chosen sides yet. I would fucking LOVE to see what the world does if they get smacked in the face with proof of aliens. I am giddy with excitement. But I'm not taking this guy's word for it, yet.

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jl6 3y ago

Given the history of this subject, it’s not unreasonable to assume that a mundane explanation like “he’s lying” is more likely than the extraordinary explanation of a worldwide decades-long conspiracy theory. I mean, I hope it’s true. Aliens would be cool. But we’ve been here before.

PKop 3y ago

I'm sorry, are you under the impression that high level government agents don't lie? That he isn't no-name makes the lie more plausible of course. We're talking hypothetical and possibilities here, that you're completely rejecting the possibility of a government lie is pretty silly. >supporting testimony from a whole array of decorated people in important positions C'mon man lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destr...

Loquebantur 3y ago
I don't think you understand in the slightest what is being said here. If you assume, this guy was lying on behalf of the government you might want to try to rationalize that, because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. That idea about the US wanting to impress other nations with bogus UFO tech is ridiculously stupid. You completely underestimate other countries for instance.
- qup 3y ago
  You're largely attacking the person here, instead of their argument. I think "lying on behalf of the government" happens like...constantly. (See: war in ukraine) I don't really think this guy is lying, but ruling it out is...well, "ridiculously stupid." It doesn't have to be rationalized. There's a littany of reasons we could invent that could justify lying about UFOs. This government has many foolish people in positions of power. Those people in, in theory, can do foolish things that don't make any sense whatsoever. And the claim we're up against is literally aliens. You gotta bring receipts on that, and war medals aren't enough. I'm highly interested to see this develop, and I haven't chosen sides yet. I would fucking LOVE to see what the world does if they get smacked in the face with proof of aliens. I am giddy with excitement. But I'm not taking this guy's word for it, yet.