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It's the same with all the other VR headsets -- I know so many people who bought them and then months later they just sit there used only very sporadically.

dbtc 3y ago
Or do they just not want to talk about how much porn they watch?
- numpad0 3y ago
  Seems there are couple paths. Some goes full "sugaring" relationships in VRC, others go for stereo 3DoF porn, most loves them as interior decorations and few uses for other use-cases as industrial design and/or gaming.
cassianoleal 3y ago
VR headsets in general are a faff. I have previously owned a PS VR (the first iteration) and sold it after a couple months because it had only seen any action in the first couple weeks. I now own a PS VR2. It's a lot less of a faff, but still far from ideal. I've had it for a couple months though, and my usage is actually increasing. I look forward to having some time to play, which due to work and other interests, happens only a few times a week. It takes some time and work to be fully set up and ready to play, and time to get off it, clean everything up, put it in charge, etc (there are 3 devices that need charging: 2 controllers and headphones. What Apple seem to have done (or at least claim to) is to solve all or most of the issues with current VR tech, such as: * Motion sickness due to low refresh rates and lag * Resolution and front-door or mura effects * Complete disconnection from the outside world unless you take the whole setup off (which takes some time to put in) * Awkwardness of using your hands since they're attached to controllers and you can't see them (mostly) * The choice between being tethered or having a heavy thing attached to your skull * The need for yet another thing in order to get decent sound - I use a pair of over-ear headphones. So, they combined: VR/AR/MR headset, GPU, CPU, controllers, headphones/sound system into one neat package. On top of that, as much as the breakout battery might not be ideal, it solves the weight vs tether vs operating time issue relatively neatly. The price is really the main problem but given the amount of tech in this product it's understandable. If it could fully replace a Macbook (run full blown macOS on it, connect to external display for off-headset work), there would be a lot more people jumping on it.
- boringg 3y ago
  Use-case is the missing ingredient - we will have to see what comes of it. It reminds me a big of google glass -- impressive product without a reason to need it. Yes comparing glass and Vision Pro isn't fair but there are parallels.

dbtc 3y ago

Or do they just not want to talk about how much porn they watch?

numpad0 3y ago
Seems there are couple paths. Some goes full "sugaring" relationships in VRC, others go for stereo 3DoF porn, most loves them as interior decorations and few uses for other use-cases as industrial design and/or gaming.

cassianoleal 3y ago

VR headsets in general are a faff. I have previously owned a PS VR (the first iteration) and sold it after a couple months because it had only seen any action in the first couple weeks. I now own a PS VR2. It's a lot less of a faff, but still far from ideal. I've had it for a couple months though, and my usage is actually increasing. I look forward to having some time to play, which due to work and other interests, happens only a few times a week. It takes some time and work to be fully set up and ready to play, and time to get off it, clean everything up, put it in charge, etc (there are 3 devices that need charging: 2 controllers and headphones. What Apple seem to have done (or at least claim to) is to solve all or most of the issues with current VR tech, such as: * Motion sickness due to low refresh rates and lag * Resolution and front-door or mura effects * Complete disconnection from the outside world unless you take the whole setup off (which takes some time to put in) * Awkwardness of using your hands since they're attached to controllers and you can't see them (mostly) * The choice between being tethered or having a heavy thing attached to your skull * The need for yet another thing in order to get decent sound - I use a pair of over-ear headphones. So, they combined: VR/AR/MR headset, GPU, CPU, controllers, headphones/sound system into one neat package. On top of that, as much as the breakout battery might not be ideal, it solves the weight vs tether vs operating time issue relatively neatly. The price is really the main problem but given the amount of tech in this product it's understandable. If it could fully replace a Macbook (run full blown macOS on it, connect to external display for off-headset work), there would be a lot more people jumping on it.

boringg 3y ago
Use-case is the missing ingredient - we will have to see what comes of it. It reminds me a big of google glass -- impressive product without a reason to need it. Yes comparing glass and Vision Pro isn't fair but there are parallels.