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This whole idea is stupid. How about giving proper financial support for parents and covering all expenses for raising a child and not just give away money to l
by codedokode 3y ago
This whole idea is stupid. How about giving proper financial support for parents and covering all expenses for raising a child and not just give away money to lazy people who don't want to work and contribute nothing to society.
- zeusk 3y agoThis whole idea is stupid. How about giving proper financial support for unfortunate and beaten down people and covering all expenses for sustaining life and not just give away money to lazy parents who don't want to work and contribute nothing to society.
- codedokode 3y agoParents contribute to society by providing future workers and soldiers.
- surgical_fire 3y agoWell, this is a nice change of pace of governments giving money and "get out of jail free cards" to their cronies that belong to the rich elites, who quite often are damaging to society, instead of simply "not contributing".
- sublinear 3y agoWho says these 30 recipients aren't politically connected?
- surgical_fire 3y agoThe 'U' in "UBI" has a meaning. Unless you are implying that everyone is politically connected, I'll guess that you are just throwing any argument against a wall to see if anything sticks.
- cheeseomlit 3y agoIts just a cynical power play as usual. "Vote for me and I'll give you money" is a platform as old as politics
- grey_earthling 3y ago> This whole idea is stupid. How about giving proper financial support for parents and covering all expenses for raising a child — like a universal basic income — > and not just give away money to lazy people who don't want to work and contribute nothing to society. — like “investors' dividends”. This argument makes more sense against capitalism than against this.
- codedokode 3y agoAs the amount of money is limited it is important to set priorities. If you have extra money to give away then it is better to give them to parents to promote creating families, to pay for education for children from poor families, to improve free medicine, to create new jobs etc. It doesn't make sense to give money to people who are just lazy and got used to spending their parents' money instead of working. They will just spend money on alcohol, cigarettes or online games.
- bubbleRefuge 3y agoThe Job Guarantee proposal is much better [1]. At its essence is to guarantee a federally funded job to anyone that wants one with a living wage and full benefits. This would tighten the labor market, put a floor on it, and lift society from the ground up. Firms would then have to provide better jobs than the guarantee if they want labor. 1. https://gimms.org.uk/job-guarantee/ https://gimms.org.uk/job-guarantee/
- fwungy 3y agoExactly. Government preferences should be given to people raising children, regardless of race, sexuality, or gender. Much of the social services network is about supporting children. If parents were given job preference over other identity categories it would be a) fair and b) protect children without creating social service costs.
- welshwelsh 3y agoSubsiding parenthood is far worse than subsidizing laziness. The opposite would be better: give financial support to people only if they agree not to waste that money on kids they can't afford to have.
- codedokode 3y agoThen almost anyone except software developers and riches won't be able to have kids, and 20-30 years later there will be nobody to serve in the army and protect your country. Great plan.