22 ms·

Sublime Text 2 Build 2181

275 points by pshken 15y ago

vwoelm 15y ago
Finally a new dock icon!
twiceaday 15y ago
Oi, that is a rough looking icon. There is a severe lack of contrast. The one from this article http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-text-2-tips-and-tricks/ http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-tex... is worlds better.
- colinramsay 15y ago
  Yes, I'm not a fan either. Here's another alternative: https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon
- evoactivity 15y ago
  yeah, not a fan of the new one. Tbh never really liked any of the icon factories work.
- 54mf 15y ago
  I'm fine with the new icon, but it really does look like a rush job. IconFactory has done better.
- kemayo 15y ago
  My only real complaint with the icon is that the perspective is completely out of place. See it compared to everything else on my Dock: http://sta.sh/01giwsf26wey http://sta.sh/01giwsf26wey
Derbasti 15y ago
It is amazing at what pace Sublime Text 2 is being developed! It feels like there are new updates every day. I love it!
- olimortimer 15y ago
  There are pretty much new updates every couple of days - http://www.sublimetext.com/dev http://www.sublimetext.com/dev
hopeless 15y ago
Be aware that the download page is aggressively cached. I was downloading Build 2165 and wondering why I wasn't seeing the new icon.
- Hovertruck 15y ago
  Much easier to just open the app and get prompted to download the latest.
frou_dh 15y ago
Great stuff. I like the selection matching highlight. I wonder what the plan for coming out of beta and formally launching is. It seems imminent because both the theme and icon got spruced up recently.
ShaneOG 15y ago
Sub-pixel rendering! :)
- kellishaver 15y ago
  I was amazed at how much of a difference this has made in text quality. Funny story: I thought the blurriness I was noticing before was due to my new interocular lens implant that I got in December-nope.... turns out it was the font rendering all along and my vision was too bad before the surgery to notice it. So, better rendering all around, really. :)
mise 15y ago
My main objective with Sublime is to master the keyboard shortcuts. Stuff like (on the PC) Ctrl+D to select the current word, and repeat for next occurrences. This starts up a multiple-selection that you can just type and all selected occurrences are replaced. I forked a GitHub Gist from others and tweaked it a bit, for reference to useful shortcuts: https://gist.github.com/1736542 https://gist.github.com/1736542
- biaxident 15y ago
  That reference is super useful. If you're on a Mac you can substitue Ctrl for cmd.
  - axelav 15y ago
    there's also this for Mac https://gist.github.com/1839777 https://gist.github.com/1839777
- losvedir 15y ago
  Wow, very useful, thanks. There's a useful comment to the gist I had no idea about: Ctrl/Cmd X,C, and V all operate on the whole line if nothing is selected. That's a clever way for it to work.
- Jakegissing 15y ago
  Much appreciated thank you.
- Silhouette 15y ago
  > Stuff like (on the PC) Ctrl+D to select the current word, and repeat for next occurrences. We're evaluating Sublime Text 2 right now, and for me that alone is a killer feature that is likely to earn them their new customer unless anything desperately show-stopping turns up between now and when they make the official release. My only wish is that it the feature was just slightly more flexible, if only having a corresponding keystroke to deselect/skip an instance. It's so darned useful that it actively annoys me now if I use the same term in two different contexts and can't separate out just one of them, even though no other editor/IDE I use has this feature at all! :-) I'm starting to figure out the Python integration now, though, so maybe I'll be able to set that up myself in due course, which really would convince me to spend real money on the software...
sadovnychyi 15y ago
Icon was not very pleased. However it's best text editor in the world.
FooBarWidget 15y ago
The new icon is better, but I still prefer this third party icon: http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-text-2-tips-and-tricks/ http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-tex...
- sant0sk1 15y ago
  There are a bunch of 3rd party icons that are all better than the new icon. I aggregated them last month: http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2012/01/sublime-text-2-icon-replacement-roundup/ http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2012/01/sublime-text-2-icon-repla...
  - ricardobeat 15y ago
    those are just mimicking "web 2.0" or apple-style fads. None of them works better as an identity (except the one by Nate Beaty, but the new one is still prettier).
  - bryne 15y ago
    The Icon Factory does (highly acclaimed and visible) work. The new icon is about a million times more polished than any of those options, in my opinion.
- no-espam 15y ago
  The new icon is worse. It doen't look like a key. I only figured that out after reading the article. It's not square made worse by the perspective. The other alternatives look much better.
  - TylerE 15y ago
    It does look like a key. A key on a macbook pro. http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/249927-apple-macbook-pro-key.jpg http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/249927-apple-macbook-pro-...
- blackant 15y ago
  I was excited to read that Iconfactory did the latest icon, but quite frankly, I think the new icon is worse. My favorite replacement is still this beauty by Daniel Matarazo: https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon
Terretta 15y ago
Does anyone interested in this editor know how to associate file types with this app in bulk, rather than one by one in the "Open With ..." dialog? Any other editor I have, informs the OS, and a: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user (or the equivalent for your particular version of OS X) will rebuild all those correctly. Sublime Text never appears in the file associations after a rebuild. Background: - http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/remove-duplicate-applications-from-open-with.htm http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/remove-duplicate-ap... // Note: In Safari on Lion, that code line above is long and scrolls, invisibly here on HN.
- skithund 15y ago
  Try RCDefaultApp, which lets you choose default applications per file extension (amongst other means). http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/ http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/
  - Terretta 15y ago
    I'd completely forgotten this, though I have it as a preference pane. Thank you for reminding me. SublimeText 2 is recognized in the app list, with a long list of extensions supported, with a single checkmark to add it as an "Open With" option to all of them and a button to allow making it the default. (Note, it's not always what one wants as the default, consider .html for example, so more granular settings may be in order.)
- speg 15y ago
  Isn't there an option to "Open all files like this" in the 'Open With' dialog?
  - Terretta 15y ago
    > rather than one by one in the "Open With ..." dialog That option means don't just open this .txt file, but all .txt files. That is the option that associates .txt with this editor, yes. But then you have to do it for .php files. And .rb files. And .py files. Etc., one by one.
qwertyuiopop 15y ago
I wish you could tell it to not load some *.py files (they aren't part of the plugin and are included so I can use additional functionality). The plugin's unload_handler() isn't run when quitting the app, which isn't very nice. @atexit.register also didn't work. The plugin also won't reload when the source is changed. At least when there is a symlink in the Packages directory pointing to the plugin folder. But the editor seems nice and will be a good editor after some UX and API work.
- jskinner 15y ago
  These issues are best addressed on the Sublime Text forum, but for the first one at least, .py files in a subdirectory under a package won't be loaded as plugins, so you can place libraries there (this is done for Packages/Default/send2trash, for example).
rtud 15y ago
Personally I really like the new icon.
speg 15y ago
I've been using it more and more, but still use Coda for larger projects just so I can use the code navigator to get my head around the larger code base. I haven't seen anything like that for sublime yet...
- CWIZO 15y ago
  I never used Coda so I don't know if this is what you mean. But Sublime has "projects", you basically add a folder as a project and then you get a nice sidebar that has your folder's structure displayed, and then you can open files from there. (http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/projects http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/projects)
- seclorum 15y ago
  I've used Coda in the past, but I've found that Sublimes cmd-R and cmd-T/-P are all I need to be able to navigate around like a ninja.
- Brajeshwar 15y ago
  I'm a Coda to Sublime convert. Try Coda on larger files and it will drag you. Yes, I would love to have a navigator like Coda. However, it's a matter of perspective, try "CMD + p" and you'll love it. (I'm guessing it should correspond to "Ctrl + p".
lvillani 15y ago
For the first time I am seriously considering whether to replace Emacs as my primary text editor on Linux. I've been compulsively using Emacs for the past 5 years. Thanks to Emacs I felt in love with (a dialect of) Lisp and experienced the freedom brought by a truly programmable text editor. An enlighting experience. About a couple of weeks ago I began using Sublime Text 2 and... wow, it gets so many things right and out-of-the-box that I'm now fighting an inner battle to make a choice. I am by no means an "hardcore" Emacs user but over the years I accumulated more than seven hundred lines of elisp code in my ~/.emacs.d/init.el. A large portion of that file glues together stuff like ido-mode, ido-ubiquitous, smex, AutoComplete, find-file-in-project, etc making my Emacs a lot Sublime-like. I recently threw most of that stuff away and began working on sublime.el, which tries to emulate Sublime Text 2 as closely as possible. However Emacs is showing a lot of warts: ido's fuzzy matching becomes painfully slow when dealing with lots of entries, I have yet to make find-file-in-project behave the way I want, provide most-recently-used heuristics to ido (for any use case not covered by smex), there's no consistent way to set a unique indentation level across major modes, long startup times (though the emacs-as-a-daemon/emacsclient pair mitigates the issue somewhat) and, in general, the UI is antiquated¹. My only gripes with Sublime Text 2 are that there's nowhere near the amount of documentation Emacs has (for obvious reasons) and that it is a (mostly) proprietary piece of software. What if Jon is hit by a bus², looses interest in his project or finds it unprofitable and decides to stop all development? I would really, really hate to depend on a piece of software which is never going to get at least bug fixes. I honestly hope that Jon is considering open-sourcing it, should he go AWOL for any reason. By switching to Sublime Text 2 I feel like I am betraying Emacs and all it represents in the name of convenience. Choice, how paradoxical thou art! I am sorry if you find this disquisition boring but I had an urge to write it down somewhere. How liberating! __________ ¹ E.g. there's probably a way to get like find-file-in-project to show stuff as neatly as Sublime Text 2 does but as far as I know nobody has done it, yet. ² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
- manish_gill 15y ago
  I was also a little hesitant to switch from Vim to Sublime Text 2, but I finally decided to do it. I run ST2 in Vim mode, which is easily configurable, and honestly, it's much more easier, does so many things right,and after adding just a few plugins (the package control being one of them), it has become my default text editor. And lets hope Jon doesn't get hit by a bus. :)
rzbn 15y ago
I dropped emacs, vim and notepad++ for this.
tommyd 15y ago
I'll join the others in saying that the icon doesn't look good to me. On my Mac's dock, the white outline around the key looks really poor at a small size - it's clear what it is when magnified but just looks like an outer glow at dock size. At least we can change it though :) Fantastic editor however. I'm finding it's pretty much replaced vim for me with vintage mode - I've never been a particularly hard-core vim user however, so I'm sure there's plenty that more knowledgable users would find is missing from Vintage mode. Features like the Cmd-P fuzzy filename matching are just too useful (the vim plugin equivalent is really slow in comparison)! Quite a few colleagues have switched from various editors and IDEs (e.g. jEdit, Eclipse) after I introduced them to it also.
mansolo 15y ago
Is there a "print" function with Sublime Text, for the odd time I need to print something out? How about converting a file to PDF?
twodayslate 15y ago
Is anyone else disappointed with the icon? It doesn't feel very polished which is surprising since it is from The Iconfactory. I expect better from them.
54mf 15y ago
My cycle: 1. Use Sublime Text for a few weeks. 2. Get annoyed at a tiny issue. Ugly icon, window UI, font rendering, etc. 3. Consider switching to TextMate 4. New version of Sublime Text fixes one/all of my issues. 5. Use Sublime Text. I'll never learn. Incredibly impressed with the dev cycle and how far it has come in a matter of months. At this point, Coda 2 might not even be enough to pull me away.
techiferous 15y ago
Have any TextMate users out there tried Sublime? I'd love to hear a comparison.
- jguimont 15y ago
  Much better than TextMate. Faster, actually actively developed. Just cmd-t and cmd-p makes it worth the switch.
  - seclorum 15y ago
    I bought Sublime as soon as I accidentally hit cmd-R and realized what it was showing me. ;)
    - gulbrandr 15y ago
      What does cmd-R do?
      - Brajeshwar 15y ago
        Helps you jump to functions, methods. I love it when developing on large CSS files (and/or Sass files).
    - Fluxx 15y ago
      Textmate has this same feature to, I think it's called "Go to symbol." That said, I used Textmate and I love Sublime so much better.
  - jkraemer 15y ago
    shift-cmd-t is 'Goto Symbol' in TextMate, pretty much what cmd-r does in Sublime.
  - blacksmith_tb 15y ago
    Agreed - the incredible speed of pulling up files in ST2 is great. And searching across dirs / projects is much, much faster than TM, also. There are few things that I miss, every so often (printing, dragging selected text), but I am overall very happy to have bought ST2. I haven't yet needed to install on a machine running another OS, but that is also a very nice perk.
seclorum 15y ago
I feel the same way about Sublime Text 2 as I do with Reaper (http://reaper.fm http://reaper.fm). Both of these applications represent astounding value for money - Reaper is a Digital Audio Workstation, Sublime, a text editor. Both of these applications offer features found in much larger, far more expensive packages - but still, the author keeps them affordable (its an easy, easy buy when the price is right) and competitive. We get updates for free, and each update cycle I find myself almost squealing like a kid getting nintendo for Christmas, jumping in right away to find out whats new. This is commercial software, done right. A great price, great features, and superlative relationship with the users. Well done Jon, and thank you for todays update excitement!
- deleted 15y ago
  [deleted]
Shank 15y ago
On Windows you can't do much better, all the paid text editors are crap (Textpad anyone?), and Notepad++'s plugin system falls short of Sublime's (hot installation vs. restarting). As usual another fantastic build.
- megaman821 15y ago
  Komodo Edit/IDE is a good choice also.
- jussij 15y ago
  Zeus editor? - http://www.zeusedit.com http://www.zeusedit.com
- yalestar 15y ago
  Wow, I had almost totally forgotten about TextPad. I absolutely loved that editor back in about 2002-3. Unfortunately, the site looks exactly the same as it did back then (although, surprisingly, there have been fairly recent new releases)
davidw 15y ago
Reading some of the comments here, it's evident that planet Emacs, where I'm from, is in a galaxy a long ways away from planet "I give a shit about the icons". Sounds like the guy behind the project is quite responsive, and doing a good job for a good price, but I'm just way too attached to having open source tools for my work.
- sho_hn 15y ago
  Oh, it's closed source? OK, there goes all my interest. It's odd how you just expect certain kinds of software to be open source today. Edit: Since I'm getting downvoted as-is, let me flesh out this posting with some more explanation for my stance: My text editor is an application I will invest a lot of time in learning and customizing, and it's important to me that this investment will end up being worth the effort long into the future. With a closed source text editor, I don't have the same level of confidence that the product will continue to exist and be maintained. Closed source also means that parts of the application are off-limits to customization, and I don't want to be beholden to another's determination of what part of the app is on that side of the fence.
  - kstrauser 15y ago
    I actually agree with you completely: at this point you'd just assume that text editors would be free. That said, I work faster in ST2 than I did in Emacs and I can very quickly repay its purchase price in increased productivity. Should ST2's author get hit by a bus tomorrow and every copy of ST2 in the world instantly stop working, I could go back to Emacs and still have benefitted from having ST2 in the mean time. Suppose someone offers you a golden goose that earns you $1 an hour but costs $100. If you get your $100 back out of it before the goose dies, you've broken even. If you get $101 out of it, you've turned a profit. If you get $500 out of it, you've made a good investment. I've already made my money back on ST2. If I lose the use of it, I've still come out ahead.
    - sho_hn 15y ago
      Let me be clear though that I wasn't talking about price. Rather I was genuinely surprised to learn that it wasn't open source, perhaps because so many of the top editors are, because of its persistent popularity in these circles and its dalliance with open solutions, and because I would expect someone starting a new high-end text editor today to want to put the project on solid long-term footing, which to me implies open and community involvement.
politician 15y ago
I'm using ST2 for CoffeeScript/js development, and Visual Studio with ReSharper for backend C# development. The difference is night and day -- it feels like ST2 is designed with the sole goal of helping me write code as fast as possible with as little friction as possible. I used to wish that Visual Studio supported tmbundles, now I'm trying to figure out how to fit a C# development process into ST2.
- freeman478 15y ago
  Please keep us posted if you make progress on the C# front. I also like quite a bit ST2 but I don't think it could replace VS for now
  - politician 15y ago
    Agreed, it certainly wouldn't replace VS for debugging, but it's just such a nice, fast, well-behaved editor... I almost want to try.
username3 15y ago
Reasons to install Sublime Text 2 (1p1e1.tumblr.com) 35 points by 1p1e1 69 days ago http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3356413 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3356413
mistercow 15y ago
It's really coming together. Now if they will just allow autocomplete to search across all open files, my life will be perfect.
imjared 15y ago
Pretty amazing that the one repeated pain point here seems to be the icon.
jaequery 15y ago
i tried hard to like sublime but at the end, i still go back to the trusty old zend studio 5.5. and i love emacs and it's great for editing scripts here and there but when working on a big project where you have atleast 10 files open, it's not really the best way to do things.
- outworlder 15y ago
  Could you elaborate? I find it hard to work on projects where I have many files open, unless I am using Emacs (with ido-mode). Tabs are just too slow, cumbersome and don't scale.
  - kstrauser 15y ago
    ST2 handles this much like ido-mode. Press cmd-P to open the "Goto Anything" dialog and type a few letters from a filename to get a list of matching files from the current project. I'm not exactly sure of the weighting algorithm, but it seems to almost always highlight files that are already open so that pressing enter will take me directly to the tab I wanted. Whether you have 100 Emacs buffers open or 100 ST2 tabs, it's pretty easy to navigate to the one you want with a few keystrokes.
    - blacksmith_tb 15y ago
      Why keep 100 ST2 tabs open when like you've said it's so fast to just cmd-p to pull up the file you need, open or not (unless you have a very large number of files with the same name)? I summon and dismiss files like crazy, but I generally only keep a few things open at any time.
      - georgemcbay 15y ago
        Personally I like to keep many files open so that I have undo buffers for them in case I change my mind. This is a subjective thing and I know there are other ways to solve the same issue (keeping versioned files ala Dropbox, etc), but easy undo of recent-but-not-too-recent changes is the #1 reason I tend to keep tons of files open when editing projects.
_feda_ 15y ago
As much as I think sublime is beautiful and rather useful, I think I'll have to stick with vim. I've invested too much time learning how to use it and configuring it to throw all that away, and besides, it's that effort that has made me so efficient in the environment. There is a "vintage" mode (http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html) that supports some vi bindings, but until I can use vim proper from within sublime, I can't really use the program seriously I'm afraid.
- adimitrov 15y ago
  Same here… Additionally, I also use boatloads of plugins that I've come to rely on. Among the most important ones are Fugitive, syntastic, and gundo (seriously, branched undos have saved my life in the past, and visualizing them in a tree? Hell yes.) But there's also more basic ones, like surround, tagbar, and eclim (if I were a full-time Java dev, I'd need eclim.) It's a chicken-and-egg problem, really. Vim is here, Vim is good, Vim is good enough. It's got its warts. VimL is the biggest. And that birds-eye view in Sublime really does look sweet! I wonder how useful it is in day-to-day programming.
  - Derbasti 15y ago
    Sublime Text 2 has a plugin that emulates Surround. It has a pretty good mode for Git interaction. Even its Vintage (Vim emulation) mode is really surprisingly good. Hell, it even has a mode that is beginning to emulate Emacs' org-mode. Only time will tell how far it will go.
fletchowns 15y ago
Why must he always put spaces in the filename?
- ricardobeat 15y ago
  Why shouldn't he? Are you using MS-DOS?
  - LokiSnake 15y ago
    I still prefer to not have spaces in file names. I then don't need to use quotes or escape spaces when typing the file name in the shell.
    - aaronblohowiak 15y ago
      tab key for the win
    - erikpukinskis 15y ago
      backslash-space isn't any harder to type than shift-underscore.
      - LokiSnake 15y ago
        Or you could just use the dash or period as delimiters.
  - fletchowns 15y ago
    Because nobody else ever does? Windows apps, linux apps, javascript libraries, etc etc do not put spaces in filenames. The only spaces in filenames I have for downloaded files on my computer are the people that insist on sending me an excel document full of jpg screenshots.
    - andypants 15y ago
      Your logic. It makes no sense.
dedward 15y ago
I'm on 2180 - why does an update say "2180 is the most current version?" I've been on the fence between vim, textmate, and sublime text 2...... liking st2 more and more, though not for any particular reason. It will be interesting to see what the community comes up with as it grows...... tons of room for awesome expansion as far as I can see. (needs more default syntax plugins)
- davepeck 15y ago
  2180 is a dev build; 2181 is a beta build. If you're using dev builds, beta builds (which ship about once a month) won't be part of your update stream.
Rayne 15y ago
Darn. Still doesn't even come close to correctly indenting Clojure.
hybrid11 15y ago
This is awesome, finally they have implemented real Word Highlighting (a lot better than the current ctrl+d feature), now you don't need to rely on half working plugins!
zippy123 15y ago
ST2 is the only editor that has managed to pull me away from GVim - and I've been using that as long as I can remember. Great job.
carterschonwald 15y ago
One of the nicest things I discovered about sublime text 2 personally is that it handles ginormous files very well. Having a text editor that doesn't crash on that occasional 1gb text file you need to look at is a nice thing
pacomerh 15y ago
I love this editor, it's fast with big files. Bought my license last week. Some useful shortcuts here https://gist.github.com/1207002 https://gist.github.com/1207002
strongorder 15y ago
Ubuntu/Unity user might find the following unity dash helper/launcher useful. ST2 does not currently come with Linux launcher shortcut. http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3457&p=24156#p24156 http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=345...
arostrat 15y ago
Still no File Compare feature. I think I'll stay with notepad++.
- zumda 15y ago
  If both of the files are in the side, highlight both (with cmd-click). Then right click -> Diff Files...
arostrat 15y ago
Still no File Compare feature. I think I'll stay with notepad++.

275 points by pshken 15y ago

Finally a new dock icon!

Oi, that is a rough looking icon. There is a severe lack of contrast. The one from this article http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-text-2-tips-and-tricks/ http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-tex... is worlds better.

colinramsay 15y ago
Yes, I'm not a fan either. Here's another alternative: https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon
evoactivity 15y ago
yeah, not a fan of the new one. Tbh never really liked any of the icon factories work.
54mf 15y ago
I'm fine with the new icon, but it really does look like a rush job. IconFactory has done better.
kemayo 15y ago
My only real complaint with the icon is that the perspective is completely out of place. See it compared to everything else on my Dock: http://sta.sh/01giwsf26wey http://sta.sh/01giwsf26wey

Derbasti 15y ago

It is amazing at what pace Sublime Text 2 is being developed! It feels like there are new updates every day. I love it!

olimortimer 15y ago
There are pretty much new updates every couple of days - http://www.sublimetext.com/dev http://www.sublimetext.com/dev

hopeless 15y ago

Be aware that the download page is aggressively cached. I was downloading Build 2165 and wondering why I wasn't seeing the new icon.

Hovertruck 15y ago
Much easier to just open the app and get prompted to download the latest.

frou_dh 15y ago

Great stuff. I like the selection matching highlight. I wonder what the plan for coming out of beta and formally launching is. It seems imminent because both the theme and icon got spruced up recently.

ShaneOG 15y ago

Sub-pixel rendering! :)

kellishaver 15y ago
I was amazed at how much of a difference this has made in text quality. Funny story: I thought the blurriness I was noticing before was due to my new interocular lens implant that I got in December-nope.... turns out it was the font rendering all along and my vision was too bad before the surgery to notice it. So, better rendering all around, really. :)

mise 15y ago

My main objective with Sublime is to master the keyboard shortcuts. Stuff like (on the PC) Ctrl+D to select the current word, and repeat for next occurrences. This starts up a multiple-selection that you can just type and all selected occurrences are replaced. I forked a GitHub Gist from others and tweaked it a bit, for reference to useful shortcuts: https://gist.github.com/1736542 https://gist.github.com/1736542

biaxident 15y ago
That reference is super useful. If you're on a Mac you can substitue Ctrl for cmd.
- axelav 15y ago
  there's also this for Mac https://gist.github.com/1839777 https://gist.github.com/1839777
losvedir 15y ago
Wow, very useful, thanks. There's a useful comment to the gist I had no idea about: Ctrl/Cmd X,C, and V all operate on the whole line if nothing is selected. That's a clever way for it to work.
Jakegissing 15y ago
Much appreciated thank you.
Silhouette 15y ago
> Stuff like (on the PC) Ctrl+D to select the current word, and repeat for next occurrences. We're evaluating Sublime Text 2 right now, and for me that alone is a killer feature that is likely to earn them their new customer unless anything desperately show-stopping turns up between now and when they make the official release. My only wish is that it the feature was just slightly more flexible, if only having a corresponding keystroke to deselect/skip an instance. It's so darned useful that it actively annoys me now if I use the same term in two different contexts and can't separate out just one of them, even though no other editor/IDE I use has this feature at all! :-) I'm starting to figure out the Python integration now, though, so maybe I'll be able to set that up myself in due course, which really would convince me to spend real money on the software...

sadovnychyi 15y ago

Icon was not very pleased. However it's best text editor in the world.

FooBarWidget 15y ago

The new icon is better, but I still prefer this third party icon: http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-text-2-tips-and-tricks/ http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/sublime-tex...

sant0sk1 15y ago
There are a bunch of 3rd party icons that are all better than the new icon. I aggregated them last month: http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2012/01/sublime-text-2-icon-replacement-roundup/ http://blog.jerodsanto.net/2012/01/sublime-text-2-icon-repla...
- ricardobeat 15y ago
  those are just mimicking "web 2.0" or apple-style fads. None of them works better as an identity (except the one by Nate Beaty, but the new one is still prettier).
- bryne 15y ago
  The Icon Factory does (highly acclaimed and visible) work. The new icon is about a million times more polished than any of those options, in my opinion.
no-espam 15y ago
The new icon is worse. It doen't look like a key. I only figured that out after reading the article. It's not square made worse by the perspective. The other alternatives look much better.
- TylerE 15y ago
  It does look like a key. A key on a macbook pro. http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/249927-apple-macbook-pro-key.jpg http://www4.pcmag.com/media/images/249927-apple-macbook-pro-...
blackant 15y ago
I was excited to read that Iconfactory did the latest icon, but quite frankly, I think the new icon is worse. My favorite replacement is still this beauty by Daniel Matarazo: https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon https://github.com/dmatarazzo/Sublime-Text-2-Icon

Terretta 15y ago

Does anyone interested in this editor know how to associate file types with this app in bulk, rather than one by one in the "Open With ..." dialog? Any other editor I have, informs the OS, and a: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user (or the equivalent for your particular version of OS X) will rebuild all those correctly. Sublime Text never appears in the file associations after a rebuild. Background: - http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/remove-duplicate-applications-from-open-with.htm http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/qt/remove-duplicate-ap... // Note: In Safari on Lion, that code line above is long and scrolls, invisibly here on HN.

skithund 15y ago
Try RCDefaultApp, which lets you choose default applications per file extension (amongst other means). http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/ http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/
- Terretta 15y ago
  I'd completely forgotten this, though I have it as a preference pane. Thank you for reminding me. SublimeText 2 is recognized in the app list, with a long list of extensions supported, with a single checkmark to add it as an "Open With" option to all of them and a button to allow making it the default. (Note, it's not always what one wants as the default, consider .html for example, so more granular settings may be in order.)
speg 15y ago
Isn't there an option to "Open all files like this" in the 'Open With' dialog?
- Terretta 15y ago
  > rather than one by one in the "Open With ..." dialog That option means don't just open this .txt file, but all .txt files. That is the option that associates .txt with this editor, yes. But then you have to do it for .php files. And .rb files. And .py files. Etc., one by one.

qwertyuiopop 15y ago

I wish you could tell it to not load some *.py files (they aren't part of the plugin and are included so I can use additional functionality). The plugin's unload_handler() isn't run when quitting the app, which isn't very nice. @atexit.register also didn't work. The plugin also won't reload when the source is changed. At least when there is a symlink in the Packages directory pointing to the plugin folder. But the editor seems nice and will be a good editor after some UX and API work.

jskinner 15y ago
These issues are best addressed on the Sublime Text forum, but for the first one at least, .py files in a subdirectory under a package won't be loaded as plugins, so you can place libraries there (this is done for Packages/Default/send2trash, for example).

rtud 15y ago

Personally I really like the new icon.

speg 15y ago

I've been using it more and more, but still use Coda for larger projects just so I can use the code navigator to get my head around the larger code base. I haven't seen anything like that for sublime yet...

CWIZO 15y ago
I never used Coda so I don't know if this is what you mean. But Sublime has "projects", you basically add a folder as a project and then you get a nice sidebar that has your folder's structure displayed, and then you can open files from there. (http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/projects http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/projects)
seclorum 15y ago
I've used Coda in the past, but I've found that Sublimes cmd-R and cmd-T/-P are all I need to be able to navigate around like a ninja.
Brajeshwar 15y ago
I'm a Coda to Sublime convert. Try Coda on larger files and it will drag you. Yes, I would love to have a navigator like Coda. However, it's a matter of perspective, try "CMD + p" and you'll love it. (I'm guessing it should correspond to "Ctrl + p".

lvillani 15y ago

For the first time I am seriously considering whether to replace Emacs as my primary text editor on Linux. I've been compulsively using Emacs for the past 5 years. Thanks to Emacs I felt in love with (a dialect of) Lisp and experienced the freedom brought by a truly programmable text editor. An enlighting experience. About a couple of weeks ago I began using Sublime Text 2 and... wow, it gets so many things right and out-of-the-box that I'm now fighting an inner battle to make a choice. I am by no means an "hardcore" Emacs user but over the years I accumulated more than seven hundred lines of elisp code in my ~/.emacs.d/init.el. A large portion of that file glues together stuff like ido-mode, ido-ubiquitous, smex, AutoComplete, find-file-in-project, etc making my Emacs a lot Sublime-like. I recently threw most of that stuff away and began working on sublime.el, which tries to emulate Sublime Text 2 as closely as possible. However Emacs is showing a lot of warts: ido's fuzzy matching becomes painfully slow when dealing with lots of entries, I have yet to make find-file-in-project behave the way I want, provide most-recently-used heuristics to ido (for any use case not covered by smex), there's no consistent way to set a unique indentation level across major modes, long startup times (though the emacs-as-a-daemon/emacsclient pair mitigates the issue somewhat) and, in general, the UI is antiquated¹. My only gripes with Sublime Text 2 are that there's nowhere near the amount of documentation Emacs has (for obvious reasons) and that it is a (mostly) proprietary piece of software. What if Jon is hit by a bus², looses interest in his project or finds it unprofitable and decides to stop all development? I would really, really hate to depend on a piece of software which is never going to get at least bug fixes. I honestly hope that Jon is considering open-sourcing it, should he go AWOL for any reason. By switching to Sublime Text 2 I feel like I am betraying Emacs and all it represents in the name of convenience. Choice, how paradoxical thou art! I am sorry if you find this disquisition boring but I had an urge to write it down somewhere. How liberating! __________ ¹ E.g. there's probably a way to get like find-file-in-project to show stuff as neatly as Sublime Text 2 does but as far as I know nobody has done it, yet. ² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor

manish_gill 15y ago
I was also a little hesitant to switch from Vim to Sublime Text 2, but I finally decided to do it. I run ST2 in Vim mode, which is easily configurable, and honestly, it's much more easier, does so many things right,and after adding just a few plugins (the package control being one of them), it has become my default text editor. And lets hope Jon doesn't get hit by a bus. :)

rzbn 15y ago

I dropped emacs, vim and notepad++ for this.

tommyd 15y ago

I'll join the others in saying that the icon doesn't look good to me. On my Mac's dock, the white outline around the key looks really poor at a small size - it's clear what it is when magnified but just looks like an outer glow at dock size. At least we can change it though :) Fantastic editor however. I'm finding it's pretty much replaced vim for me with vintage mode - I've never been a particularly hard-core vim user however, so I'm sure there's plenty that more knowledgable users would find is missing from Vintage mode. Features like the Cmd-P fuzzy filename matching are just too useful (the vim plugin equivalent is really slow in comparison)! Quite a few colleagues have switched from various editors and IDEs (e.g. jEdit, Eclipse) after I introduced them to it also.

mansolo 15y ago

Is there a "print" function with Sublime Text, for the odd time I need to print something out? How about converting a file to PDF?

twodayslate 15y ago

Is anyone else disappointed with the icon? It doesn't feel very polished which is surprising since it is from The Iconfactory. I expect better from them.

54mf 15y ago

My cycle: 1. Use Sublime Text for a few weeks. 2. Get annoyed at a tiny issue. Ugly icon, window UI, font rendering, etc. 3. Consider switching to TextMate 4. New version of Sublime Text fixes one/all of my issues. 5. Use Sublime Text. I'll never learn. Incredibly impressed with the dev cycle and how far it has come in a matter of months. At this point, Coda 2 might not even be enough to pull me away.

techiferous 15y ago

Have any TextMate users out there tried Sublime? I'd love to hear a comparison.

jguimont 15y ago
Much better than TextMate. Faster, actually actively developed. Just cmd-t and cmd-p makes it worth the switch.
- seclorum 15y ago
  I bought Sublime as soon as I accidentally hit cmd-R and realized what it was showing me. ;)
  - gulbrandr 15y ago
    What does cmd-R do?
    - Brajeshwar 15y ago
      Helps you jump to functions, methods. I love it when developing on large CSS files (and/or Sass files).
  - Fluxx 15y ago
    Textmate has this same feature to, I think it's called "Go to symbol." That said, I used Textmate and I love Sublime so much better.
- jkraemer 15y ago
  shift-cmd-t is 'Goto Symbol' in TextMate, pretty much what cmd-r does in Sublime.
- blacksmith_tb 15y ago
  Agreed - the incredible speed of pulling up files in ST2 is great. And searching across dirs / projects is much, much faster than TM, also. There are few things that I miss, every so often (printing, dragging selected text), but I am overall very happy to have bought ST2. I haven't yet needed to install on a machine running another OS, but that is also a very nice perk.

seclorum 15y ago

I feel the same way about Sublime Text 2 as I do with Reaper (http://reaper.fm http://reaper.fm). Both of these applications represent astounding value for money - Reaper is a Digital Audio Workstation, Sublime, a text editor. Both of these applications offer features found in much larger, far more expensive packages - but still, the author keeps them affordable (its an easy, easy buy when the price is right) and competitive. We get updates for free, and each update cycle I find myself almost squealing like a kid getting nintendo for Christmas, jumping in right away to find out whats new. This is commercial software, done right. A great price, great features, and superlative relationship with the users. Well done Jon, and thank you for todays update excitement!

deleted 15y ago
[deleted]

Shank 15y ago

On Windows you can't do much better, all the paid text editors are crap (Textpad anyone?), and Notepad++'s plugin system falls short of Sublime's (hot installation vs. restarting). As usual another fantastic build.

megaman821 15y ago
Komodo Edit/IDE is a good choice also.
jussij 15y ago
Zeus editor? - http://www.zeusedit.com http://www.zeusedit.com
yalestar 15y ago
Wow, I had almost totally forgotten about TextPad. I absolutely loved that editor back in about 2002-3. Unfortunately, the site looks exactly the same as it did back then (although, surprisingly, there have been fairly recent new releases)

davidw 15y ago

Reading some of the comments here, it's evident that planet Emacs, where I'm from, is in a galaxy a long ways away from planet "I give a shit about the icons". Sounds like the guy behind the project is quite responsive, and doing a good job for a good price, but I'm just way too attached to having open source tools for my work.

sho_hn 15y ago
Oh, it's closed source? OK, there goes all my interest. It's odd how you just expect certain kinds of software to be open source today. Edit: Since I'm getting downvoted as-is, let me flesh out this posting with some more explanation for my stance: My text editor is an application I will invest a lot of time in learning and customizing, and it's important to me that this investment will end up being worth the effort long into the future. With a closed source text editor, I don't have the same level of confidence that the product will continue to exist and be maintained. Closed source also means that parts of the application are off-limits to customization, and I don't want to be beholden to another's determination of what part of the app is on that side of the fence.
- kstrauser 15y ago
  I actually agree with you completely: at this point you'd just assume that text editors would be free. That said, I work faster in ST2 than I did in Emacs and I can very quickly repay its purchase price in increased productivity. Should ST2's author get hit by a bus tomorrow and every copy of ST2 in the world instantly stop working, I could go back to Emacs and still have benefitted from having ST2 in the mean time. Suppose someone offers you a golden goose that earns you $1 an hour but costs $100. If you get your $100 back out of it before the goose dies, you've broken even. If you get $101 out of it, you've turned a profit. If you get $500 out of it, you've made a good investment. I've already made my money back on ST2. If I lose the use of it, I've still come out ahead.
  - sho_hn 15y ago
    Let me be clear though that I wasn't talking about price. Rather I was genuinely surprised to learn that it wasn't open source, perhaps because so many of the top editors are, because of its persistent popularity in these circles and its dalliance with open solutions, and because I would expect someone starting a new high-end text editor today to want to put the project on solid long-term footing, which to me implies open and community involvement.

politician 15y ago

I'm using ST2 for CoffeeScript/js development, and Visual Studio with ReSharper for backend C# development. The difference is night and day -- it feels like ST2 is designed with the sole goal of helping me write code as fast as possible with as little friction as possible. I used to wish that Visual Studio supported tmbundles, now I'm trying to figure out how to fit a C# development process into ST2.

freeman478 15y ago
Please keep us posted if you make progress on the C# front. I also like quite a bit ST2 but I don't think it could replace VS for now
- politician 15y ago
  Agreed, it certainly wouldn't replace VS for debugging, but it's just such a nice, fast, well-behaved editor... I almost want to try.

username3 15y ago

Reasons to install Sublime Text 2 (1p1e1.tumblr.com) 35 points by 1p1e1 69 days ago http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3356413 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3356413

mistercow 15y ago

It's really coming together. Now if they will just allow autocomplete to search across all open files, my life will be perfect.

imjared 15y ago

Pretty amazing that the one repeated pain point here seems to be the icon.

jaequery 15y ago

i tried hard to like sublime but at the end, i still go back to the trusty old zend studio 5.5. and i love emacs and it's great for editing scripts here and there but when working on a big project where you have atleast 10 files open, it's not really the best way to do things.

outworlder 15y ago
Could you elaborate? I find it hard to work on projects where I have many files open, unless I am using Emacs (with ido-mode). Tabs are just too slow, cumbersome and don't scale.
- kstrauser 15y ago
  ST2 handles this much like ido-mode. Press cmd-P to open the "Goto Anything" dialog and type a few letters from a filename to get a list of matching files from the current project. I'm not exactly sure of the weighting algorithm, but it seems to almost always highlight files that are already open so that pressing enter will take me directly to the tab I wanted. Whether you have 100 Emacs buffers open or 100 ST2 tabs, it's pretty easy to navigate to the one you want with a few keystrokes.
  - blacksmith_tb 15y ago
    Why keep 100 ST2 tabs open when like you've said it's so fast to just cmd-p to pull up the file you need, open or not (unless you have a very large number of files with the same name)? I summon and dismiss files like crazy, but I generally only keep a few things open at any time.
    - georgemcbay 15y ago
      Personally I like to keep many files open so that I have undo buffers for them in case I change my mind. This is a subjective thing and I know there are other ways to solve the same issue (keeping versioned files ala Dropbox, etc), but easy undo of recent-but-not-too-recent changes is the #1 reason I tend to keep tons of files open when editing projects.

_feda_ 15y ago

As much as I think sublime is beautiful and rather useful, I think I'll have to stick with vim. I've invested too much time learning how to use it and configuring it to throw all that away, and besides, it's that effort that has made me so efficient in the environment. There is a "vintage" mode (http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html) that supports some vi bindings, but until I can use vim proper from within sublime, I can't really use the program seriously I'm afraid.

adimitrov 15y ago
Same here… Additionally, I also use boatloads of plugins that I've come to rely on. Among the most important ones are Fugitive, syntastic, and gundo (seriously, branched undos have saved my life in the past, and visualizing them in a tree? Hell yes.) But there's also more basic ones, like surround, tagbar, and eclim (if I were a full-time Java dev, I'd need eclim.) It's a chicken-and-egg problem, really. Vim is here, Vim is good, Vim is good enough. It's got its warts. VimL is the biggest. And that birds-eye view in Sublime really does look sweet! I wonder how useful it is in day-to-day programming.
- Derbasti 15y ago
  Sublime Text 2 has a plugin that emulates Surround. It has a pretty good mode for Git interaction. Even its Vintage (Vim emulation) mode is really surprisingly good. Hell, it even has a mode that is beginning to emulate Emacs' org-mode. Only time will tell how far it will go.

fletchowns 15y ago

Why must he always put spaces in the filename?

ricardobeat 15y ago
Why shouldn't he? Are you using MS-DOS?
- LokiSnake 15y ago
  I still prefer to not have spaces in file names. I then don't need to use quotes or escape spaces when typing the file name in the shell.
  - aaronblohowiak 15y ago
    tab key for the win
  - erikpukinskis 15y ago
    backslash-space isn't any harder to type than shift-underscore.
    - LokiSnake 15y ago
      Or you could just use the dash or period as delimiters.
- fletchowns 15y ago
  Because nobody else ever does? Windows apps, linux apps, javascript libraries, etc etc do not put spaces in filenames. The only spaces in filenames I have for downloaded files on my computer are the people that insist on sending me an excel document full of jpg screenshots.
  - andypants 15y ago
    Your logic. It makes no sense.

dedward 15y ago

I'm on 2180 - why does an update say "2180 is the most current version?" I've been on the fence between vim, textmate, and sublime text 2...... liking st2 more and more, though not for any particular reason. It will be interesting to see what the community comes up with as it grows...... tons of room for awesome expansion as far as I can see. (needs more default syntax plugins)

davepeck 15y ago
2180 is a dev build; 2181 is a beta build. If you're using dev builds, beta builds (which ship about once a month) won't be part of your update stream.

Rayne 15y ago

Darn. Still doesn't even come close to correctly indenting Clojure.

hybrid11 15y ago

This is awesome, finally they have implemented real Word Highlighting (a lot better than the current ctrl+d feature), now you don't need to rely on half working plugins!

zippy123 15y ago

ST2 is the only editor that has managed to pull me away from GVim - and I've been using that as long as I can remember. Great job.

carterschonwald 15y ago

One of the nicest things I discovered about sublime text 2 personally is that it handles ginormous files very well. Having a text editor that doesn't crash on that occasional 1gb text file you need to look at is a nice thing

pacomerh 15y ago

I love this editor, it's fast with big files. Bought my license last week. Some useful shortcuts here https://gist.github.com/1207002 https://gist.github.com/1207002

strongorder 15y ago

Ubuntu/Unity user might find the following unity dash helper/launcher useful. ST2 does not currently come with Linux launcher shortcut. http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3457&p=24156#p24156 http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=345...

arostrat 15y ago

Still no File Compare feature. I think I'll stay with notepad++.

zumda 15y ago
If both of the files are in the side, highlight both (with cmd-click). Then right click -> Diff Files...

arostrat 15y ago

Still no File Compare feature. I think I'll stay with notepad++.