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Yes. Lots. It moves slowly (read: stable) and reliably. It doesn't have the toxicity of rust nor the constant changes of JS. It doesn't claim to make the world

Yes. Lots. It moves slowly (read: stable) and reliably. It doesn't have the toxicity of rust nor the constant changes of JS. It doesn't claim to make the world a better place either. It just does what it does well and leaves it at that.

marpstar 3y ago
I'll second this. It's not sexy, it'll never be sexy. But sometimes you just don't have time to fuck around. In a lot of cases I'm willing to compromise UX for being able to drop a few files on a server and have things mostly "just work". I don't use it for huge projects. I don't use it regularly. But it's a tool that has helped me build quick solutions to smaller problems and I keep in my belt because it's still more ubiquitous than any alternative.
noud 3y ago
Rather off-topic question: but what makes rust toxic in your opinion?
- gorjusborg 3y ago
  Not the person you are asking a response from, but any 'new hotness' tends to attract people whose motivations create drama. I don't have any specific gripe with Rust, but I am totally keeping an eye on it from a safe distance and letting time work it all out. In the meantime, there are nice, predictable tools to build with that don't seem so high stakes.
- tobinfekkes 3y ago
  Thank you, you're right. I was thinking later that "toxic" was the wrong word; it has a lot of baggage. I wish I would have changed it before the editing window expired. I think "infighting" or "divisive" are better options, given the past month or two. Hardly a week goes by without rust drama (which has little to do with the actual language and more to do with the community/leadership). The ecosystem is so new that the foundation hasn't been set yet. It's an infant learning to walk, so things will change quickly and drastically. This is not unique to rust by any means, of course, but just the growing pains of any project.

marpstar 3y ago

I'll second this. It's not sexy, it'll never be sexy. But sometimes you just don't have time to fuck around. In a lot of cases I'm willing to compromise UX for being able to drop a few files on a server and have things mostly "just work". I don't use it for huge projects. I don't use it regularly. But it's a tool that has helped me build quick solutions to smaller problems and I keep in my belt because it's still more ubiquitous than any alternative.

noud 3y ago

Rather off-topic question: but what makes rust toxic in your opinion?

gorjusborg 3y ago
Not the person you are asking a response from, but any 'new hotness' tends to attract people whose motivations create drama. I don't have any specific gripe with Rust, but I am totally keeping an eye on it from a safe distance and letting time work it all out. In the meantime, there are nice, predictable tools to build with that don't seem so high stakes.
tobinfekkes 3y ago
Thank you, you're right. I was thinking later that "toxic" was the wrong word; it has a lot of baggage. I wish I would have changed it before the editing window expired. I think "infighting" or "divisive" are better options, given the past month or two. Hardly a week goes by without rust drama (which has little to do with the actual language and more to do with the community/leadership). The ecosystem is so new that the foundation hasn't been set yet. It's an infant learning to walk, so things will change quickly and drastically. This is not unique to rust by any means, of course, but just the growing pains of any project.