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Nice of the Russians to support the "Western psyop" by loudly infighting over the losses suffered and struggles to hold the only bit of territory they've manage

Nice of the Russians to support the "Western psyop" by loudly infighting over the losses suffered and struggles to hold the only bit of territory they've managed to capture since their latest conscription waves, following the mass retreats of the autumn, presumably because their numerical advantage left them without any Ukranians to shoot at.

rainworld 3y ago
Nice of the Russians to support the "Western psyop" Yes, but unironically. Decisions Were Made after the US and UK attacked (via Ukraine but fooling nobody) sites of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces at the beginning of December last year.[0][1] They got an immediate answer[2], and a couple more such messages later on, but what the Russians would have realized then (if not earlier) is that you most likely cannot reason with the ruling elites of the dying empire and its rabid little attack Beagle. Let’s hope they find a way still. following the mass retreats of the autumn Every drug peddler knows: Getting high on your own supply is the most dangerous thing. numerical advantage left them without any Ukranians to shoot at. Pretty bad taste, in light of the footage coming in from Zaporozhye rn. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyagilevo_and_Engels_air_bases_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyagilevo_and_Engels_air_bases... [1]: Russia’s nuclear doctrine allows a nuclear response in such a case, for good reason. [2]: Just lol if you think this was an accident: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/05/22/b-2-stealth-bombers-flying-again-air-force-still-mum-reason-grounding.html https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/05/22/b-2-stealth-b...
- notahacker 3y ago
  > Every drug peddler knows: Getting high on your own supply is the most dangerous thing. Well at least one thing you said was true. Say what you like about the Russian propaganda, it's a whole lot less deluded than the people that think it's insufficiently clear about how Russia was only defending itself and how well their military is performing.
  - rainworld 3y ago
    Man, it’s like Mac vs. Windows all over again. Except you can count the bodies. If you dare.
    - notahacker 3y ago
      I dunno, stanning for Russian performance in this war at this stage feels a bit more like the contrarian holdout insisting that both Mac and Windows fans are wrong and GUIs will never catch on :) Cute that you've gone from Ukraine's capitulation within weeks being inevitable to pretending to count bodies though.
      - rainworld 3y ago
        I’d tread carefully on a day where I’ve burned half a brigade in a fruitless, hare-brained probing/screening effort. But then, treading carefully isn’t something Ukies (and the fandom) are generally known for exactly. Cute that you've gone from Ukraine's capitulation within weeks Have I? (Remember: “Kiew within 72 hours” were Gen. Milley’s words.) But let’s assume I did; it certainly would have been the prudent thing to do for them. Must have underestimated their ability to waste hundreds of men day after day after day and just pretend it wasn’t so. And the willingness of Western media to carry their water. And, in fact, the sheer magnitude and shamelessness of the whole propaganda effort. War is peace, baby. And anyway, as Borrell (just recently), Austin and others have observed, the Ukrainian effort would collapse within days if Western were to end. Another one of those facts pro-Ukies just love to ignore. pretending to count bodies It’s very easy to become an authority on Ukrainian losses in the West because you’re pretty much the only one showing up for the job. Half a dozen guys, tops. Truly the least interesting question conceivable by man. I understand that you, as a Brit, are congenitally bound to hate Russia and to desire to stir the European pot but remember: there’s nukes in the mix this time. Should be glad that Russia isn’t in fact losing.
        _kbh_ 3y ago
        > I understand that you, as a Brit, are congenitally bound to hate Russia and to desire to stir the European pot but remember: there’s nukes in the mix this time. Should be glad that Russia isn’t in fact losing. They aren’t losing so bad that they took close to 100k causalities to take a city that is 41 square kilometres. They aren’t losing so bad that we have seen T54s in use by Russia. Russia won’t ever use nukes in Ukraine and even if they do it won’t change the war in anyway except for increasing support for Ukraine and decreasing support for Russia This is why Russian propaganda shouts about nukes and red lines but doesn’t actually do anything. Much like how some people on here are doing the same nuclear doomerism all it is meant to do is increase fear in the west to actually ending this war.
- OrvalWintermute 3y ago
  > Yes, but unironically. Decisions Were Made after the US and UK attacked (via Ukraine but fooling nobody) sites of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces at the beginning of December last year.[0][1] They got an immediate answer[2], and a couple more such messages later on, but what the Russians would have realized then (if not earlier) is that you most likely cannot reason with the ruling elites of the dying empire and its rabid little attack Beagle. Let’s hope they find a way still. Cutting edge stealth drones which have never been seen anywhere before (particularly the marine ones) are being handcrafted by the US & UK, for ops planned using data from US/UK satellites, then guided in with US & UK C2, to hit Crimea, then we act like we are not at war. This is incredibly concerning

rainworld 3y ago

Nice of the Russians to support the "Western psyop" Yes, but unironically. Decisions Were Made after the US and UK attacked (via Ukraine but fooling nobody) sites of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces at the beginning of December last year.[0][1] They got an immediate answer[2], and a couple more such messages later on, but what the Russians would have realized then (if not earlier) is that you most likely cannot reason with the ruling elites of the dying empire and its rabid little attack Beagle. Let’s hope they find a way still. following the mass retreats of the autumn Every drug peddler knows: Getting high on your own supply is the most dangerous thing. numerical advantage left them without any Ukranians to shoot at. Pretty bad taste, in light of the footage coming in from Zaporozhye rn. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyagilevo_and_Engels_air_bases_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyagilevo_and_Engels_air_bases... [1]: Russia’s nuclear doctrine allows a nuclear response in such a case, for good reason. [2]: Just lol if you think this was an accident: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/05/22/b-2-stealth-bombers-flying-again-air-force-still-mum-reason-grounding.html https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/05/22/b-2-stealth-b...

notahacker 3y ago
> Every drug peddler knows: Getting high on your own supply is the most dangerous thing. Well at least one thing you said was true. Say what you like about the Russian propaganda, it's a whole lot less deluded than the people that think it's insufficiently clear about how Russia was only defending itself and how well their military is performing.
- rainworld 3y ago
  Man, it’s like Mac vs. Windows all over again. Except you can count the bodies. If you dare.
  - notahacker 3y ago
    I dunno, stanning for Russian performance in this war at this stage feels a bit more like the contrarian holdout insisting that both Mac and Windows fans are wrong and GUIs will never catch on :) Cute that you've gone from Ukraine's capitulation within weeks being inevitable to pretending to count bodies though.
    - rainworld 3y ago
      I’d tread carefully on a day where I’ve burned half a brigade in a fruitless, hare-brained probing/screening effort. But then, treading carefully isn’t something Ukies (and the fandom) are generally known for exactly. Cute that you've gone from Ukraine's capitulation within weeks Have I? (Remember: “Kiew within 72 hours” were Gen. Milley’s words.) But let’s assume I did; it certainly would have been the prudent thing to do for them. Must have underestimated their ability to waste hundreds of men day after day after day and just pretend it wasn’t so. And the willingness of Western media to carry their water. And, in fact, the sheer magnitude and shamelessness of the whole propaganda effort. War is peace, baby. And anyway, as Borrell (just recently), Austin and others have observed, the Ukrainian effort would collapse within days if Western were to end. Another one of those facts pro-Ukies just love to ignore. pretending to count bodies It’s very easy to become an authority on Ukrainian losses in the West because you’re pretty much the only one showing up for the job. Half a dozen guys, tops. Truly the least interesting question conceivable by man. I understand that you, as a Brit, are congenitally bound to hate Russia and to desire to stir the European pot but remember: there’s nukes in the mix this time. Should be glad that Russia isn’t in fact losing.
      - _kbh_ 3y ago
        > I understand that you, as a Brit, are congenitally bound to hate Russia and to desire to stir the European pot but remember: there’s nukes in the mix this time. Should be glad that Russia isn’t in fact losing. They aren’t losing so bad that they took close to 100k causalities to take a city that is 41 square kilometres. They aren’t losing so bad that we have seen T54s in use by Russia. Russia won’t ever use nukes in Ukraine and even if they do it won’t change the war in anyway except for increasing support for Ukraine and decreasing support for Russia This is why Russian propaganda shouts about nukes and red lines but doesn’t actually do anything. Much like how some people on here are doing the same nuclear doomerism all it is meant to do is increase fear in the west to actually ending this war.
OrvalWintermute 3y ago
> Yes, but unironically. Decisions Were Made after the US and UK attacked (via Ukraine but fooling nobody) sites of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces at the beginning of December last year.[0][1] They got an immediate answer[2], and a couple more such messages later on, but what the Russians would have realized then (if not earlier) is that you most likely cannot reason with the ruling elites of the dying empire and its rabid little attack Beagle. Let’s hope they find a way still. Cutting edge stealth drones which have never been seen anywhere before (particularly the marine ones) are being handcrafted by the US & UK, for ops planned using data from US/UK satellites, then guided in with US & UK C2, to hit Crimea, then we act like we are not at war. This is incredibly concerning