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WWDC 2023 Livestream
- vkdelta 3y agoNameDrop: sounds like a bad name for feature (negative connotation). May be they ran out of options.
- kodisha 3y agoGame mode!? Will this mean we will FINALLY get the no-acceleration mouse input modes, and be able to play 20+ years old FPS games on $3000+ machines?
- Tsiklon 3y agoI do wonder how many users will run into that memory limit on the M2 Ultra Mac Pro - given that the old Intel machine could do up to 1.5T of RAM.
- aaronscott 3y agoI think the exciting thing is that it works as GPU memory. 192gb would be great for running LLMs. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36187466 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36187466
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y agoWhat is the TDP? The performance promised seems too good to be true, what's the catch? I'm sure their advertised workloads are hardware accelerated so I wonder how it performs off-the-beaten-path so to speak.
- nsxwolf 3y agoNo doubt many will find 100+ gigs of GPU ram is worth closing 2 or 3 Chrome tabs.
- rstupek 3y agoMacPro finally announced with Apple Silicon with the new ultra chip
- asadm 3y agoI am too hyped for headset that mac updates aren't even entering my brain.
- mrweasel 3y agoWhile I'd never pay the $6999 for the Mac Pro, it's far more interesting to me than the potential headset. I am interested in seeing what Apple would propose a headset to be used for, and how they'd implement it, but I'm nowhere near sold on it being useful at all for the average person. I still remember the hype surrounding Google Glass all to well to expect an Apple headset to be a revolutionary product.
- nsxwolf 3y agoI'm starting to think there will be no headset announcement. They spent an awful long time on stickers. And it's almost over. Edit: Glad to be wrong, but also quite deflated. I will never be able to afford this $3499 device.
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- kitsunesoba 3y agoI wonder if VM passthrough works for cards installed its PCI-E slots.
- nickpp 3y agoNew, 15" MacBook Air.
- swyx 3y ago1m people are watching the main stream live on youtube concurrently. wild. any idea how this compares to previous WWDC's?
- rstupek 3y agoI'm not on YouTube so I wonder what the global audience for the keynote really is
- cassianoleal 3y agoLikewise. Watching on Apple TV.
- VincentEvans 3y agoNot replying to you specifically, but… lol, why watch this? Its a an infomercial ad selling a product.
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- rcarmo 3y agoBecause it’s a highly impactful product (any of them) that impacts the lives of millions, and the showmanship (however plastified these days) is legendary and attracts people. I wouldn’t call it a SuperBowl-level event, it’s actually bigger-we used to band together in the office to watch them (at the end of the day here in Europe) in every tech company I worked in.
- cassianoleal 3y agoI have a Macbook, an iPhone and an iPad. They shown a lot of what's coming on for these products's OSs in the near future. They're not _selling_ any of that to me in the sense that I'm not paying any extra as they're free upgrades. I like to know what's going to change. It's similar to reading the KDE newsletter, or the Linux kernel stuff to know what's new and how I might benefit from it or have to adapt to it. Aside from that, they were presenting a whole new product, very different from any other products in the same-ish niche. I also watched the Sony PSVR2 announcements, and recently the Meta Quest 3 launch videos. I find it interesting. Why wouldn't I watch it?
- parenthesis 3y agoI miss Steve.
- jedberg 3y agoMe too. Craig sounds like a professional voice actor reading a script. Steve sounded like a kid who was amazed at the stuff he was talking about. It brought an energy to the presentation.
- andiareso 3y agoI miss live WWDC in person. It just lacks the same excitement. Also this set so far is very dry. Probably the least exciting WWDC I’ve seen in the last 15 years
- jedberg 3y agoYes, that too. The audience reaction was a big part of it. Watching online still felt like you were part of the show when you could hear the audience get excited at the same time you did.
- scop 3y agoOutside of the themes, words, and presentation talents of Steve, these recent Apple events are making me realize I miss his wardrobe. I knew what he wore. I knew he really wanted to show me something, not just himself. Having every person in this demo wearing some highly unique designer clothing item results in it feeling inauthentic.
- asadm 3y agoWe have all gathered to see... Stickers demo -_-
- jaredwiener 3y agoIt was a footnote -- but stickers are now available in third party apps that support emoji? How does that work?
- vkdelta 3y agosome of smartest people on the earth working on Stickers and emojis
- capableweb 3y agoI guess that's better than the smartest people optimizing ad clicks by making people depressed.
- beepbopboopp 3y agoThe unbearable weight of being is probably better tackled than all of them going and studying algae trying to figure out how we stay alive 10 more years with heavy anxiety.
- andiareso 3y agoHaha I died reading this. I was feeling the same. Like isn’t this not WWDC? Apple is definitely losing the appeal for devs to watch these. It’s no longer technical and all marketing. I miss WWDC several years ago
- boringg 3y agoThe sound sounds overproduced.
- Rebelgecko 3y agoI'm like 90% sure that Craig's voice is either ADR or AI generated
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- kgwxd 3y agoSounds like an infomercial.
- rvz 3y agoSome startups are going to get sherlocked and destroyed today.
- weekay 3y agoJournal apps are a start
- cassianoleal 3y agoWhich ones, and why?
- vkdelta 3y agoAuto-correct was Fucking broken and I dont know if this is really solved.
- cassianoleal 3y agoI've had it disabled for months. Hopefully they fixed it. Edit: genuinely curious -- why is this being downvoted? I have had autocorrect disabled for months because it was more trouble than it was worth. I do hope they have fixed it. What gives?
- kristjansson 3y ago"If you just want to type a ducking word"
- operatingthetan 3y agoThat was odd
- danielskogly 3y agoIt's a reference to how autocorrect will turn "fucking" into "ducking" as of now. I understood this as with iOS17, you'll finally be allowed to have "fucking" autocompleted and not autocorrected away - thought I might be wrong :)
- harshalizee 3y agoThe "NameDrop" is one I'm surprised it took so long to come to fruition. This was a use case I've wanted in phones for over a decade.
- dannyw 3y agoProbably needed UWB. After all, you don't want to be accidentally namedropping in a crowded bus or stadium.
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- Heliosmaster 3y agoBump! app had this, in 2009. Was later acquired by Google. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(application) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(application)
- bena 3y agoOk, because that one seemed real familiar. I was a little confused because I was like "It doesn't already?"
- rwhyan 3y agoNameDrop is going to wreck the "tap to share" startups. cc. Popl, Linq, Dot, etc.
- kodisha 3y agoNew keyboard gets all of the features that GBoard [1] had on iOS for the last 3+ years. [1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gboard-the-google-keyboard/id1091700242 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gboard-the-google-keyboard/id1...
- awiesenhofer 3y agoGood. If they can execute them better than Google I am all for it. GBoard gets worse every day.
- vkdelta 3y agolive voicemail transcribing will be a killer feature. Hopefully those Robocalls (you car warranty just expired..) will be dead soon
- cglong 3y agoYeah I stopped receiving robocalls entirely just two weeks after switching to Pixel :) Hopefully iOS a big enough footprint to finally make that industry unprofitable.
- exhilaration 3y agoAw man, I've been thinking of moving to the iPhone when my Pixel 3a finally dies. Are you saying I'm going to have to deal with robocalls again?
- cglong 3y agoHaha, I actually did start getting robocalls again when I switched back to iOS :D But maybe this Live Voicemail feature will help mitigate it!
- DasCorCor 3y agoAutoCorrectBots Assemble!
- joe5150 3y agoApple is once again making unrealistic assumptions about how many friends I have professional-quality headshots of to put into my contacts.
- gleenn 3y agoThey would provide the photo. You choose your photo and everyone else gets it which is already true with the small contact photo and name which are shared automatically.
- cassianoleal 3y agoYep, I'm definitely not going to photobomb people with this.
- joe5150 3y agoI see! That's better/easier. I hope they've come up with something that still looks decent for the majority of my contacts who don't have or share a contact photo or who (shock) don't use an iPhone.
- BXlnt2EachOther 3y agoI know this is cynical but might a degraded experience for your Android contacts be a significant plus of this feature? (edit: I mean for Apple Inc, not for the end user). Like green bubbles.
- joe5150 3y agoMaybe, to the extent that people care enough about it to bug their android-owning contacts about it. I don't think that will be a very large number of users, especially since this is pretty trivial compared to the features you lose in iMessage group chats by adding SMS contacts.
- codetrotter 3y agoTime to start hitting up old friends and arrange photo shoots with them then!
- Inviz 3y agoWould it be possible to run new macpro in an energy saving mode if you dont need all the power, i wonder?
- jeffbee 3y agoHow much power do you think you stand to save by something like that? These modern CPUs have blurred the distinction between "idle" and "off".
- vkdelta 3y agoIntroducing apple Night stand: $299 for best ever and smartest nightstand /s
- orbitalmechanic 3y agoHopefully, they've spent the last 12 months making XCode work because they certainly haven't spent it innovating.
- scop 3y ago> "With iPhone in your hand" The lack of an article was a bit startling here, i.e. "iPhone" not "an iPhone". Is this something they have been doing for awhile? Sure we've heard "Siri" and "Alexa" personified for awhile, but raising the device itself to a Person? Perhaps I've just missed this all this years and I'm more sensitive to it in a post-ChatGPT world.
- cassianoleal 3y agoSince the launch of the first iPhone.
- scop 3y agoWow! That's amazing my brain has completely ignored it or, at the least, passed it off as nothing. My brain must be interpreting assuming or expecting AI in the presentation and making things stand out accordingly.
- Rebelgecko 3y agoIt's one of those Silicon Valley-isms that no one uses outside of product presentations. IIRC it goes all the way back to when Steve Jobs announced the original iPhone
- duped 3y agoIt's an Apple-ism, and it's grating
- joe5150 3y agoSteve Jobs talked about the iPod that way. Maybe even earlier products ("I’d like to have Macintosh speak for itself.")
- npunt 3y agoLooking forward to playing with Journal, but I'm a bit underwhelmed by the preso, doesn't feel like they made it really unique vs third party journals. I was hoping for more of an integration to messages and individual app experiences, especially health. Talked about this a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35662525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35662525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35662853 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35662853
- operatingthetan 3y agoI hope it will be on Mac as well because I'd rather write on the macbook over my phone.
- credo 3y agoSo far, in 35 minutes the Worldwide “Developers” Conference seems to be exclusively about consumer features, though they did mention API as an afterthought :)
- poulsbohemian 3y agoThat's pretty typical of how they do WWDC though... big consumer feature announcements, then share new developer features throughout the rest of the week.
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- yett 3y agoNo sideloading?
- lumenwrites 3y agoThe number one thing I wish for in an iOS update is for the text selection and the cursor placement to become less terrible. Currently it is an absolutely unusable nightmare. My main use case for my iPad is writing, and the guy who invented the "smart" text selection seems to hate my fingers - it is impossible to place the cursor where I want it to be. It tries to "intelligently" snap to the beginnings and endings of words and it gets it wrong 90% of the time. I know that you can move the cursor with press and hold on the spacebar or on the text, but having to wait a second every time I want to move the cursor is the most annoying thing in the world. It is so much easier to edit text on my much smaller Android phone screen, it's ridiculous. Just place the cursor where I tap, how hard can it be!
- saurik 3y agoHad you used older versions of iOS? Did you prefer how it worked before, or have you always disliked it?
- itbeho 3y agoI don't know how many times I've somehow selected the wrong word and then can't seem to select the word just to the left of it that I really want to copy...
- Toutouxc 3y ago> having to wait a second every time I want to move the cursor is the most annoying thing You can also use two fingers anywhere on the keyboard and there's no wait.
- minkzilla 3y agoFinally multiple timers! but only on ipad? We have not made it to the future yet.
- psim1 3y ago"Multiple timers. We truly live in an age of wonders!" Feels like I am in bizarro world. What is so wonderful about this?
- emadabdulrahim 3y agoIt's obviously a joke.
- jedberg 3y agoIt's sarcasm. The keynote is full of it this year.
- jedberg 3y agoHe's talking about the lock screen but I still haven't heard the one I've been asking for for years: Multiple users Sometimes I want to let my kid use my phone. I'd like them to have their own login so they aren't messing with my stuff but have their own apps and their own saved data. Let each app be in control of what app is shared across logins vs separated.
- scottiebarnes 3y agoApple wants you to buy an ipad for each kid.
- codetrotter 3y ago> Multiple users That would be amazing indeed. Not even just because of kids. Imagine for example having a separate user for different things. Like for example having a dedicated user that only has the default apps and Google Maps and WhatsApp. You can use this user outside and if anyone ever stole your phone while it’s unlocked they don’t have access to most of your sensitive data (email, signed in web sessions, various files and documents, etc). But multiple users would probably mean families would buy fewer devices. In which case Apple might not want to add such a useful feature.
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- parenthesis 3y agoJust make it easy to move the kids' accounts to their own iPhones/iPads for when you finally give in and give them their own.
- MadsRC 3y agoThis feature exists. It’s just that you have to be an educational institution to use it :(
- jedberg 3y agoYes! I didn't even mention this. It already exists!
- stigi 3y agoMULTIPLETIMERS
- TOMDM 3y agoPoor timing for the Apollo shout out, oof.
- femto113 3y agoAwkward timing to highlight the Apollo widget...
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- orbitalmechanic 3y agoThere's Sonoma innovation at Apple.
- mullingitover 3y agoThey finally did it. They copied Aerial[1]. (Aerial has come a long way though, it's still going to be better than the basic 'Copy/paste the Apple TV screensaver to MacOS). [1] https://aerialscreensaver.github.io/ https://aerialscreensaver.github.io/
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- vkdelta 3y agoNot a big MacOS user. Do people really love these distracting widgets?
- neerd 3y ago“Apollo for Reddit” that one isn’t going to age well
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- mullingitover 3y agoOh, nice name drop of Apollo there. Great timing.
- love2read 3y agoLol, he said so I can use apollo on mac. Good luck with that soon!
- runako 3y agoInteresting that Apollo (Reddit client) got highlighted in the iPadOS section a week after Reddit updated their pricing to put Apollo out of business. Really sad.
- danielskogly 3y agoThought perhaps this was an intentional nod to that exact situation!
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- georgeburdell 3y agoCurious to see what will stop contacts (or hackers) from setting one’s contact image to something inappropriate. A thumbnail is one thing, but a full resolution gonad picture, broadcast to others, would be a jarring experience for the recipients
- adoxyz 3y agoI feel like all these widgets are just setting up the AR/VR headset which will be very widget heavy.
- vkdelta 3y agotaking Safari to next level seems sarcastic !
- kgwxd 3y agoThat 2 thumbs up gesture guy is probably going to be the next big meme.
- vkdelta 3y agoSafari Profiles - Well most of the browsers had it like years back
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- vkdelta 3y agoSafari 2023 feature set looks like a chrome from 2017.
- evgen 3y agoAll without the Google privacy-suck. Pure win. I know you are trying to be snarky, but I could not name a single feature Chrome has introduced in the past five years that I give a shit about other than various attempts to kill off any privacy control users might have over their browsing experience.
- TheAceOfHearts 3y agoDoes anyone else find the presentation triggering uncanny valley vibes? Everything is so polished and perfect that it no longer feels like it's being presented by humans. It just comes off as incredibly inauthentic and utterly devoid of human connection. There's an avatar of a human presenting, but no humanity is present.
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- wordyskeleton 3y agonot to mention the demonstrations--these do not feel like real people
- kgwxd 3y agoIt's infomercial style. I feel like I'm stuck in an airport next to a looping video about how a frequent flyer plan might be the right choice for me.
- scyzoryk_xyz 3y agoSame feeling here. They're precisely hitting every mark, every line and every smile. It's like they're trying too hard. It's so air-tight that they come off as dorks. But it makes complete sense, these things have always been like this.
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- rngname22 3y agoSay what you will about the cheesey Zuck and Boz meta presentations/demos, they at least seem like real people even if a bit dorky. These constant gentle grin + precise hand gestures + identical infomercial vocal tone thing is weird AF.
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- harshalizee 3y agoApple's ecosystem and momentum is scary. They can just take popular apps and features and integrate them into their own OS and instantly crush startups and smaller companies to irrelevance. AirTags -> RIP Tile NameDrop -> Any 'bump' based app startup Journal -> Subscription based journal apps like DayOne, etc. and many more. Theoretically, nothing is stopping Google from doing the same, if they ever manage to release anything without a product expiry baked into it, or just release anything really.
- jedberg 3y agoIt's not the same when Tim says "One more thing" :(
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- vkdelta 3y agoOmg ! this is true "arm and a leg" price
- jedberg 3y agoThat's why they primed you right before telling you the price by mentioning that you would have to buy a big screen TV, surround sound, powerful computer and cameras and still not have the same experience. :) It's basically a portable computer, so it's priced like a laptop.