I'm a Lisper. One of my good friends at Apple was a hardcore FORTH guy. I had other friends there that were Lisp or Smalltalk enthusiasts. We got along great.

I'm a Lisper. One of my good friends at Apple was a hardcore FORTH guy. I had other friends there that were Lisp or Smalltalk enthusiasts. We got along great. The early meetings at Apple for the design of the Dylan language definitely had both Lisp and Smalltalk folks participating. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the participants were FORTH folks, too.