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To be fair, Lightyear was pretty bad. (Really, seasoned space explorers were surprised that time dilation exists?)

cryptoz 3y ago
As a space nerd, I thought Lightyear was great actually - I really loved it. I think it got great reviews too? (Except for the people angry about the gay 'kiss hello' obviously)
- geraldwhen 3y ago
  Why make a product your audience doesn’t want? Some parents don’t want to explain homosexuality to their 5 year olds in a movie about children’s toys.
  - mynameisvlad 3y ago
    Oh please. It was literally a passing moment. Something that no kid would have caught in between the actual things happening. Certainly not something that any kid-- who in general are curious not judgemental-- would have asked about after the movie. If anything, it's the bigoted parents who are gasping in shock and outrage at an extremely mundane scene. This is pearl clutching taken to the extreme.
    - whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
      You can call it whatever you want but people will vote with their wallets. I have a rainbow star trek shirt on right now. I support the gay and lesbian community in anyway I can. I will not take my children to see these movies. There are simply too many other options that do not push this crap on me that I will choose instead. My kids have been at birthday parties with gay couples. Wanna know what questions they asked about it? None! Because they are children and have no concept of sexuality. The studios are pulling out all this forced crap as soon as the strike is over too so obviously someone somewhere is reading the writing on the wall. Parents have had enough of this crap and we’re not afraid to speak up.
      - mynameisvlad 3y ago
        > I have a rainbow star trek shirt on right now. I’m one of the good guys! I have gay friends! > I support the gay and lesbian community in anyway I can. Well, you know, as long as it isn’t the most trivial of inconveniences to you. Get over yourself and unclutch your pearls, Karen. Your kids aren’t going to be traumatized from seeing two men kiss in a passing scene and you’re not going to have to do your job and have the simplest conversation with your kids. “Sometimes a boy likes another boy, and that’s perfectly normal.” is not the end of the world, even if it comes up, which it realistically won’t. Stop pretending like it is. You say you support the community, but your actions show you clearly don’t. Not even remotely close. I hope you don’t consider yourself an ally, because you are far from it.
        whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
        Yeah you are not the arbitrator on what constitutes support and this “all or nazi” approach you seem to think is working is actually causing harm. We’re not talking about “sometimes a boy likes a boy” as you put in such a ham fisted fashion. We’re talking about every single movie coming from Disney having this same crap in it. You do not get to decide what I think is appropriate for my children. End of story. I am not looking for your acceptance or affirmation. I am looking to raise strong healthy children. Judging by how my children interact with others I would say so far I am succeeding.
        mynameisvlad 3y ago
        If seeing two men kiss in a movie is causing you this much grief, then you can’t with any semblance of a straight face say that you support me and my community. Your children are going to be just as strong and healthy seeing two men kiss and seeing gay, lesbian and trans folks and their relationships existing. You thinking otherwise while pretending to be an ally is disgusting. As someone who is gay, you can proceed to fuck right off with your pretend allyship. You should take off your shirt, you don’t deserve to wear it.
        3y ago
  - snowwrestler 3y ago
    Why make a product your audience doesn’t want? Some parents don’t want to explain heterosexuality to their 5 year olds in a movie about children’s toys.
  - cancerhacker 3y ago
    And if the child sees two men kissing on the street?
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  - vlovich123 3y ago
    Did your 5 yold ask you that question? Also, children ask all sorts of questions that are far more uncomfortable to answer than that. Why the handwringing over this?
  - gurumeditations 3y ago
    Which of course brings up the whole process of eradicating homophobic hatred from straight society, which is accomplished by including these tiny things here and there so there is no questions or confusion; there just ‘is’, like with straight intimacy which is overwhelming and everywhere at all times.
- mcast 3y ago
  Pixar movies used to have a very high standard for film critics. Rotten Tomatoes has Lightyear ranked as the 3rd worst Pixar movie behind Cars (https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-pixar-movies-ranked/ https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-pixar-movies-...)
  - yellowapple 3y ago
    Cars was pretty great, too, so if Lightyear is less "bad" than Cars then that seems like glowing praise if anything.
    - DizzyDoo 3y ago
      You've misundertood the list, Lightyear ranks one place below Cars, so (on this list at least) it's viewed as worse than Cars. But better than Cars 3 and Cars 2.
      - yellowapple 3y ago
        Cars 2 was also pretty great, so my point still stands.
  - toyg 3y ago
    The difference being that Cars cost 70m (around 100m in 2023 dollars) and made 460m (half of that in the US). Lightyear cost 200m and made 220m. It didn't even make a profit in the US market. It's hard not to consider it a massive flop.
- toyg 3y ago
  I don't know in the US, but here in UK it was largely panned for being something nobody was asking for.
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As a space nerd, I thought Lightyear was great actually - I really loved it. I think it got great reviews too? (Except for the people angry about the gay 'kiss hello' obviously)

geraldwhen 3y ago
Why make a product your audience doesn’t want? Some parents don’t want to explain homosexuality to their 5 year olds in a movie about children’s toys.
- mynameisvlad 3y ago
  Oh please. It was literally a passing moment. Something that no kid would have caught in between the actual things happening. Certainly not something that any kid-- who in general are curious not judgemental-- would have asked about after the movie. If anything, it's the bigoted parents who are gasping in shock and outrage at an extremely mundane scene. This is pearl clutching taken to the extreme.
  - whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
    You can call it whatever you want but people will vote with their wallets. I have a rainbow star trek shirt on right now. I support the gay and lesbian community in anyway I can. I will not take my children to see these movies. There are simply too many other options that do not push this crap on me that I will choose instead. My kids have been at birthday parties with gay couples. Wanna know what questions they asked about it? None! Because they are children and have no concept of sexuality. The studios are pulling out all this forced crap as soon as the strike is over too so obviously someone somewhere is reading the writing on the wall. Parents have had enough of this crap and we’re not afraid to speak up.
    - mynameisvlad 3y ago
      > I have a rainbow star trek shirt on right now. I’m one of the good guys! I have gay friends! > I support the gay and lesbian community in anyway I can. Well, you know, as long as it isn’t the most trivial of inconveniences to you. Get over yourself and unclutch your pearls, Karen. Your kids aren’t going to be traumatized from seeing two men kiss in a passing scene and you’re not going to have to do your job and have the simplest conversation with your kids. “Sometimes a boy likes another boy, and that’s perfectly normal.” is not the end of the world, even if it comes up, which it realistically won’t. Stop pretending like it is. You say you support the community, but your actions show you clearly don’t. Not even remotely close. I hope you don’t consider yourself an ally, because you are far from it.
      - whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
        Yeah you are not the arbitrator on what constitutes support and this “all or nazi” approach you seem to think is working is actually causing harm. We’re not talking about “sometimes a boy likes a boy” as you put in such a ham fisted fashion. We’re talking about every single movie coming from Disney having this same crap in it. You do not get to decide what I think is appropriate for my children. End of story. I am not looking for your acceptance or affirmation. I am looking to raise strong healthy children. Judging by how my children interact with others I would say so far I am succeeding.
        mynameisvlad 3y ago
        If seeing two men kiss in a movie is causing you this much grief, then you can’t with any semblance of a straight face say that you support me and my community. Your children are going to be just as strong and healthy seeing two men kiss and seeing gay, lesbian and trans folks and their relationships existing. You thinking otherwise while pretending to be an ally is disgusting. As someone who is gay, you can proceed to fuck right off with your pretend allyship. You should take off your shirt, you don’t deserve to wear it.
        3y ago
- snowwrestler 3y ago
  Why make a product your audience doesn’t want? Some parents don’t want to explain heterosexuality to their 5 year olds in a movie about children’s toys.
- cancerhacker 3y ago
  And if the child sees two men kissing on the street?
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- vlovich123 3y ago
  Did your 5 yold ask you that question? Also, children ask all sorts of questions that are far more uncomfortable to answer than that. Why the handwringing over this?
- gurumeditations 3y ago
  Which of course brings up the whole process of eradicating homophobic hatred from straight society, which is accomplished by including these tiny things here and there so there is no questions or confusion; there just ‘is’, like with straight intimacy which is overwhelming and everywhere at all times.
mcast 3y ago
Pixar movies used to have a very high standard for film critics. Rotten Tomatoes has Lightyear ranked as the 3rd worst Pixar movie behind Cars (https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-pixar-movies-ranked/ https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-pixar-movies-...)
- yellowapple 3y ago
  Cars was pretty great, too, so if Lightyear is less "bad" than Cars then that seems like glowing praise if anything.
  - DizzyDoo 3y ago
    You've misundertood the list, Lightyear ranks one place below Cars, so (on this list at least) it's viewed as worse than Cars. But better than Cars 3 and Cars 2.
    - yellowapple 3y ago
      Cars 2 was also pretty great, so my point still stands.
- toyg 3y ago
  The difference being that Cars cost 70m (around 100m in 2023 dollars) and made 460m (half of that in the US). Lightyear cost 200m and made 220m. It didn't even make a profit in the US market. It's hard not to consider it a massive flop.
toyg 3y ago
I don't know in the US, but here in UK it was largely panned for being something nobody was asking for.

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