When lispers talk about lists, they are usually speaking about a very specific type of data structure - a linked list of cons cells[0]. Clojure's lists are not

When lispers talk about lists, they are usually speaking about a very specific type of data structure - a linked list of cons cells[0]. Clojure's lists are not actual chains of cons, they are immutable hash array map tries. This means that Common Lisp code can't interoperate with Clojure code. The precise/pedantic lisper may insist that since Lisp stands for List Processing and Lists are chains of cons cells and since Clojure doesn't have cons cells for the built-in lists, then Clojure is not a Lisp. If, however, you view lisp (lower case) as a family of homo-iconic languages that use s-expressions, then Clojure happily fits under that umbrella. The trick is to pay close attention to whether the person is talking about a Lisp (ANSI Common Lisp implementation) or a lisp (the family). Sometimes people say "lisp" when they are talking about "Lisp", which can cause some confusion. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cons