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This article is six years old, published only a year after the Brexit vote. Since then non-EU migration has risen dramatically; now outnumbering immigration fro

by DC-3 3y ago

This article is six years old, published only a year after the Brexit vote. Since then non-EU migration has risen dramatically; now outnumbering immigration from inside the EU by a ratio of about 8:1. Student visas provide an entryway to hundreds of thousands without the need to satisfy income requirements. I suspect that if there is a challenge facing curryhouses it is not immigration. Maybe a more atomised society which prefers deliveroo to eating out on the cheap and regular is more to blame.

n4r9 3y ago
Non-EU migration has gone up, but that's a very broad stroke to apply. In my experience there has been a marked increase in the number of South Asian tech workers. Potentially the UK is in fact skimming skilled labour from countries that could really use some domestic development. It's worth noting that: * A great majority of the increase in work visas comes from African rather than South Asian countries * Long-term work visas are generally given for ICT or "skilled" work * "Skilled" work has a salary floor of around £26k * A curry chef's salary averages around £25k Sources: * https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2022/why-do-people-come-to-the-uk-to-work https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-... * https://www.gov.uk/skilled-worker-visa https://www.gov.uk/skilled-worker-visa * https://www.checkasalary.co.uk/salary/curry-chef-england https://www.checkasalary.co.uk/salary/curry-chef-england * https://www.statista.com/statistics/1241587/indian-population-in-united-kingdom/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1241587/indian-populatio...
- rhaway84773 3y ago
  And either way the lede is being buried here. The Brexit leaders were just going around lying and telling everyone what they wanted to hear. The broader public was being told immigration would be reduced (now that’s not happening, they’re trying to shift the focus to “small boats” but polls are showing that’s clearly not working). Curry shop owners were told it would increase immigration to the people they wanted. But the only reason we know this because it’s an in depth article about curry shops. So we found this out coincidentally. It’s likely that there’s a whole bunch of other industries that were also told XYZ type of immigration would be increased even if overall immigration was decreased. As it turns out, the majority of those claims will turn out to be lies, and the ones that are true are coincidentally true. This is the fundamental scam underlying Brexit. There was no plan and as a result everyone was being told whatever they wanted would be delivered through Brexit.
boomskats 3y ago
Typically a comment like yours would include a couple of external references that back up the claims you're making. Without them that's just like your opinion, man.
- adammarples 3y ago
  The immigration numbers to Britain and their student/non-student ratios are widely stats at this point and not someone's opinion, this stuff isn't secret.
jwestbury 3y ago
Current proposals severely limit the amount of time students can stay in the country post-graduation, however, which will prevent student visas from serving as an entryway. The student visa as a path to entry is a bug, not a feature, to the Tories.

by DC-3 3y ago

n4r9 3y ago

Non-EU migration has gone up, but that's a very broad stroke to apply. In my experience there has been a marked increase in the number of South Asian tech workers. Potentially the UK is in fact skimming skilled labour from countries that could really use some domestic development. It's worth noting that: * A great majority of the increase in work visas comes from African rather than South Asian countries * Long-term work visas are generally given for ICT or "skilled" work * "Skilled" work has a salary floor of around £26k * A curry chef's salary averages around £25k Sources: * https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2022/why-do-people-come-to-the-uk-to-work https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-... * https://www.gov.uk/skilled-worker-visa https://www.gov.uk/skilled-worker-visa * https://www.checkasalary.co.uk/salary/curry-chef-england https://www.checkasalary.co.uk/salary/curry-chef-england * https://www.statista.com/statistics/1241587/indian-population-in-united-kingdom/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1241587/indian-populatio...

rhaway84773 3y ago
And either way the lede is being buried here. The Brexit leaders were just going around lying and telling everyone what they wanted to hear. The broader public was being told immigration would be reduced (now that’s not happening, they’re trying to shift the focus to “small boats” but polls are showing that’s clearly not working). Curry shop owners were told it would increase immigration to the people they wanted. But the only reason we know this because it’s an in depth article about curry shops. So we found this out coincidentally. It’s likely that there’s a whole bunch of other industries that were also told XYZ type of immigration would be increased even if overall immigration was decreased. As it turns out, the majority of those claims will turn out to be lies, and the ones that are true are coincidentally true. This is the fundamental scam underlying Brexit. There was no plan and as a result everyone was being told whatever they wanted would be delivered through Brexit.

boomskats 3y ago

Typically a comment like yours would include a couple of external references that back up the claims you're making. Without them that's just like your opinion, man.

adammarples 3y ago
The immigration numbers to Britain and their student/non-student ratios are widely stats at this point and not someone's opinion, this stuff isn't secret.

jwestbury 3y ago

Current proposals severely limit the amount of time students can stay in the country post-graduation, however, which will prevent student visas from serving as an entryway. The student visa as a path to entry is a bug, not a feature, to the Tories.