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The company became shitty and tried to gaslight us. I'm happy with other Pis, like Orange, Rock and Nano Pis.

by johnklos 3y ago

Gigachad 3y ago
Do they have mainline Linux support?
- johnklos 3y ago
  No idea. I run NetBSD, and in NetBSD, everything has mainline support. No matter - there are many different kinds of Pi out there, and a non-trivial number of them have Linux mainline support, and most are substantially cheaper, better specced, or both. I just got an 8 core, 16 gig Orange Pi 5 for $120. I might've been able to get a 4 gig Pi 4, which has 1/4 the memory, 1/3 the overall performance and lacks NVMe for that price.
- megous 3y ago
  Just Orange Pi brand has like 30 different boards. And Linux kernel has 6 different LTS versions, stable version, and master branch. If you want to ask about mainline support, you can pick the board and just go to whichever Linux kernel version you intend to be using, and check for yourself. Corresponding dts file will be in either one of these directories for 95% of Orange Pi boards (the rest that don't use Rockchip or Allwinner SoCs are better ignored): https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot/dts https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/allwinner https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo...
- deleted 3y ago
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- packetlost 3y ago
  Orange Pi 5 (RK3588s) and Orange Pi 5 Plus (RK3588) are likely to have mainline kernel support for most peripherals pretty soon, though someone will need to make DTS files for the Orange Pi specifically. The chipset is being added by Collabora: https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/notes-for-rockchip-3588/-/blob/main/mainline-status.md https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-35...
  - megous 3y ago
    https://xnux.eu/log/088.html https://xnux.eu/log/088.html
screamingninja 3y ago
Curious about your experience if you're willing / able to share some insights!
- johnklos 3y ago
  Sure! One of my colocated servers has to be low power, so I went with an 8 gig Raspberry Pi 4 with two USB-3 attached 8 TB disks, mirrored. It runs NetBSD, and it runs well - it serves backup MX, DNS, a SearxNG instance, an rsync destination for backups, et cetera. SearxNG runs decently, but it takes a lot of memory and requires the CPU's full attention, which means background compiling can cause search timeouts (they can be niced, but when things are pushed to swap, you have no choice to wait for them to be swapped back), so I got a 16 gig, 8 core, 2.4 GHz Orange Pi 5 which'll replace the Raspberry Pi 4. It's very quick, relatively cheap ($120), and takes less power than I thought it would. In many instances where I want to run a physically tiny computer, Raspberry Pi Zeros are small, can run on 1/2 amp at 5 volts, and won't overheat. However, their lack of ethernet makes using them a bit clunky. On the other hand, there're these little NanoPi Neo devices that are adorably cute, very tiny, take as little power as the RPi Zero (or even less), and fully functional with ethernet and a heat sink that makes mounting them super easy. Another application I've had is a hardware VPN device which 100% prevents leakage because the computer can't communicate with anything but the hardware device. For this I'm using NanoPi R2S because they're tiny, they have two physical gigabit ethernet ports and you can buy them with a cute little case, so they're practically ready-to-go products that only need an SD card put in to be 100% ready to go. I have other projects, but these are some I've already done.

The company became shitty and tried to gaslight us. I'm happy with other Pis, like Orange, Rock and Nano Pis.

Gigachad 3y ago

Do they have mainline Linux support?

johnklos 3y ago
No idea. I run NetBSD, and in NetBSD, everything has mainline support. No matter - there are many different kinds of Pi out there, and a non-trivial number of them have Linux mainline support, and most are substantially cheaper, better specced, or both. I just got an 8 core, 16 gig Orange Pi 5 for $120. I might've been able to get a 4 gig Pi 4, which has 1/4 the memory, 1/3 the overall performance and lacks NVMe for that price.
megous 3y ago
Just Orange Pi brand has like 30 different boards. And Linux kernel has 6 different LTS versions, stable version, and master branch. If you want to ask about mainline support, you can pick the board and just go to whichever Linux kernel version you intend to be using, and check for yourself. Corresponding dts file will be in either one of these directories for 95% of Orange Pi boards (the rest that don't use Rockchip or Allwinner SoCs are better ignored): https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot/dts https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm/boot... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/allwinner https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo... https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/arch/arm64/bo...
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packetlost 3y ago
Orange Pi 5 (RK3588s) and Orange Pi 5 Plus (RK3588) are likely to have mainline kernel support for most peripherals pretty soon, though someone will need to make DTS files for the Orange Pi specifically. The chipset is being added by Collabora: https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/notes-for-rockchip-3588/-/blob/main/mainline-status.md https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-35...
- megous 3y ago
  https://xnux.eu/log/088.html https://xnux.eu/log/088.html

screamingninja 3y ago

Curious about your experience if you're willing / able to share some insights!

johnklos 3y ago
Sure! One of my colocated servers has to be low power, so I went with an 8 gig Raspberry Pi 4 with two USB-3 attached 8 TB disks, mirrored. It runs NetBSD, and it runs well - it serves backup MX, DNS, a SearxNG instance, an rsync destination for backups, et cetera. SearxNG runs decently, but it takes a lot of memory and requires the CPU's full attention, which means background compiling can cause search timeouts (they can be niced, but when things are pushed to swap, you have no choice to wait for them to be swapped back), so I got a 16 gig, 8 core, 2.4 GHz Orange Pi 5 which'll replace the Raspberry Pi 4. It's very quick, relatively cheap ($120), and takes less power than I thought it would. In many instances where I want to run a physically tiny computer, Raspberry Pi Zeros are small, can run on 1/2 amp at 5 volts, and won't overheat. However, their lack of ethernet makes using them a bit clunky. On the other hand, there're these little NanoPi Neo devices that are adorably cute, very tiny, take as little power as the RPi Zero (or even less), and fully functional with ethernet and a heat sink that makes mounting them super easy. Another application I've had is a hardware VPN device which 100% prevents leakage because the computer can't communicate with anything but the hardware device. For this I'm using NanoPi R2S because they're tiny, they have two physical gigabit ethernet ports and you can buy them with a cute little case, so they're practically ready-to-go products that only need an SD card put in to be 100% ready to go. I have other projects, but these are some I've already done.