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When the Bluesky and the Facebook competitors launch I can see a lot of big firms moving across to those and leaving Twitter behind. Twitter is going to become

When the Bluesky and the Facebook competitors launch I can see a lot of big firms moving across to those and leaving Twitter behind. Twitter is going to become the Fox news of social media I think. Lots of hardcore maga, funded by ads from the same people that advertise on Fox News.

_ea1k 3y ago
I think that is far from guaranteed. Most people aren't reading twitter to see what Fox news, or any other media company, thinks the news should be about.
- BossingAround 3y ago
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  - gruez 3y ago
    >I am not a Twitter user, and at this point, my idea of "what's Twitter's content" is pretty much "mostly MAGA." what makes you think this?
    - notahacker 3y ago
      Apart from the CEO's posturing, it seems like the "More Tweets" shown around other tweets to unregistered users are now heavily skewed towards that demographic even when wildly irrelevant to the actual content being looked at (the popularity of certain commentators producing that sort of content isn't exactly unique to Twitter, and nor is the other irrelevant tweets mostly being cat pics, but I suspect the fact that nearly all the politics Twitter randomly surfaces to people who haven't cultivated a profile with the opposite preferences is of that ilk probably reflects who buys the blue ticks...)
- drcongo 3y ago
  I think you're rather missing the point the parent was making. It doesn't matter what you're there for, if the experience feels Fox-News-like, a lot of people will leave. The people remaining will be those who like Fox News.
  - hackernewds 3y ago
    Fox news is the biggest news organization in the US by viewership, which seems to be a positive shift then? This does not reflect in the numbers
    - Kye 3y ago
      The highest rated cable news program is still a drop in the bucket. It's just not that many people. It's up there with large niche YouTube channels: popular in their space like a Linus Tech Tips or Contrapoints, but most people have never heard of them. More people watch Stephen Colbert poke fun at Fox News than watch Fox News. Almost no one gets their news from Fox News, or cable news in general. People who do are less informed.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      Yes. But mainstream advertisers stay away from many of the talk shows on Fox News.
    - kthejoker2 3y ago
      No, it's a negative shift. Twitter trying to be a Fox News is reducing their total addressable market and value, you understand that, right? They had a business that (in theory) appealed to every human on the planet. Now they don't. It's shedding its userbase as a result. Not to mention the Venn diagram between "people who are not already on Twitter and are evaluating Twitter as a platform to use" and "Fox News / right wing information consumers" has a very narrow overlap.
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    - drcongo 3y ago
      "in the US" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. The entire rest of the world thinks Fox News is grotesque. Twitter becoming something that's a laughing stock to most of the planet is probably not "positive".
    - anigbrowl 3y ago
Maxamillion96 3y ago
It’s the Yahoo comment section at this point, especially for blue checks. No one who can post would pay 8 dollars a month, so it’s all hustlebro scammers or idiotic conspiracy theories.
- ethanbond 3y ago
  One of the most brilliant ideas: Put the content of people who need to pay for engagement, whether due to their own psychoses or due to the fact they produce garbage content, above anyone who organically produces engaging content. 140 IQ move
strict9 3y ago
I don't know. With Jack confidently predicting a conspiracy theorist will win the presidency, it tells me Bluesky isn't going to be my destination. In fact I'm at a stage in my life where the idea of social media participation just isn't appealing any more.
- TheAceOfHearts 3y ago
  Not only predicting the presidency, but explicitly providing endorsement for them!
  - hackernewds 3y ago
    Delusions of grandeur when tech executives have begun to believe, and pursue that their followers develop them a cult of personality and subvert the Democratic process.
- KptMarchewa 3y ago
  Maybe, but Dorsey's political opinions didn't influence Twitter's operations that much, at least compared to current owner's ones.
  - EA-3167 3y ago
    This is the key. People and companies aren't fleeing Twitter because of what Musk believes, they're fleeing because of what he does.
    - rsynnott 3y ago
      People sometimes compare Musk to Howard Hughes. This is unfair, on Hughes; as far as I know, if you bought a plane from him he rarely showed up at your house to insist that you not eat large peas. Musk, by contrast, tends to inflict his neuroses on his user base. (Also, Hughes largely stayed out of direct running of his important businesses when he was in his pea-sizing phase, as far as I know)
- rcme 3y ago

_ea1k 3y ago

I think that is far from guaranteed. Most people aren't reading twitter to see what Fox news, or any other media company, thinks the news should be about.

BossingAround 3y ago
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- gruez 3y ago
  >I am not a Twitter user, and at this point, my idea of "what's Twitter's content" is pretty much "mostly MAGA." what makes you think this?
  - notahacker 3y ago
    Apart from the CEO's posturing, it seems like the "More Tweets" shown around other tweets to unregistered users are now heavily skewed towards that demographic even when wildly irrelevant to the actual content being looked at (the popularity of certain commentators producing that sort of content isn't exactly unique to Twitter, and nor is the other irrelevant tweets mostly being cat pics, but I suspect the fact that nearly all the politics Twitter randomly surfaces to people who haven't cultivated a profile with the opposite preferences is of that ilk probably reflects who buys the blue ticks...)
drcongo 3y ago
I think you're rather missing the point the parent was making. It doesn't matter what you're there for, if the experience feels Fox-News-like, a lot of people will leave. The people remaining will be those who like Fox News.
- hackernewds 3y ago
  Fox news is the biggest news organization in the US by viewership, which seems to be a positive shift then? This does not reflect in the numbers
  - Kye 3y ago
    The highest rated cable news program is still a drop in the bucket. It's just not that many people. It's up there with large niche YouTube channels: popular in their space like a Linus Tech Tips or Contrapoints, but most people have never heard of them. More people watch Stephen Colbert poke fun at Fox News than watch Fox News. Almost no one gets their news from Fox News, or cable news in general. People who do are less informed.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Yes. But mainstream advertisers stay away from many of the talk shows on Fox News.
  - kthejoker2 3y ago
    No, it's a negative shift. Twitter trying to be a Fox News is reducing their total addressable market and value, you understand that, right? They had a business that (in theory) appealed to every human on the planet. Now they don't. It's shedding its userbase as a result. Not to mention the Venn diagram between "people who are not already on Twitter and are evaluating Twitter as a platform to use" and "Fox News / right wing information consumers" has a very narrow overlap.
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  - drcongo 3y ago
    "in the US" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. The entire rest of the world thinks Fox News is grotesque. Twitter becoming something that's a laughing stock to most of the planet is probably not "positive".
  - anigbrowl 3y ago

Maxamillion96 3y ago

It’s the Yahoo comment section at this point, especially for blue checks. No one who can post would pay 8 dollars a month, so it’s all hustlebro scammers or idiotic conspiracy theories.

ethanbond 3y ago
One of the most brilliant ideas: Put the content of people who need to pay for engagement, whether due to their own psychoses or due to the fact they produce garbage content, above anyone who organically produces engaging content. 140 IQ move

strict9 3y ago

I don't know. With Jack confidently predicting a conspiracy theorist will win the presidency, it tells me Bluesky isn't going to be my destination. In fact I'm at a stage in my life where the idea of social media participation just isn't appealing any more.

TheAceOfHearts 3y ago
Not only predicting the presidency, but explicitly providing endorsement for them!
- hackernewds 3y ago
  Delusions of grandeur when tech executives have begun to believe, and pursue that their followers develop them a cult of personality and subvert the Democratic process.
KptMarchewa 3y ago
Maybe, but Dorsey's political opinions didn't influence Twitter's operations that much, at least compared to current owner's ones.
- EA-3167 3y ago
  This is the key. People and companies aren't fleeing Twitter because of what Musk believes, they're fleeing because of what he does.
  - rsynnott 3y ago
    People sometimes compare Musk to Howard Hughes. This is unfair, on Hughes; as far as I know, if you bought a plane from him he rarely showed up at your house to insist that you not eat large peas. Musk, by contrast, tends to inflict his neuroses on his user base. (Also, Hughes largely stayed out of direct running of his important businesses when he was in his pea-sizing phase, as far as I know)
rcme 3y ago