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We have absolutely failed with any kinds parental controls. I honestly don't care if its instagram or tiktok or snapchat or whatever app, or its generative ai

We have absolutely failed with any kinds parental controls. I honestly don't care if its instagram or tiktok or snapchat or whatever app, or its generative ai app that generates the most personalized and addictive content possible. We have gotten more 'surveillance' kind of control, monitor where the kids are, which app they are using and for how long, when they go to sleep, when they wake up etc. We can limit which app is used how long, but not what content is consumed, you are what you eat, watch toxic and depressing shit and become toxic and depressed person. The same way a parent can make sure they are buying the right nutrients for their kids, they should be able to make sure they are consuming valuable content. Instead this is left to an extremely greedy algorithm with the only goal of extracting as much attention as it can from the user. The reality is that the recommendation algorithm, the company developing it, the content creators and everyone in that chain, has completely different goals (usually: how to get more money) than the parents of the child, or the child consuming the content.

kgwxd 3y ago
You can’t actually limit anything. Kids that don’t have even a shred of technical know-how will walk to the ends of the earth to figure out how to get around it. My kid figuring out how to beat iPhone parental controls is my proudest moment as a parent.
- storkhm 3y ago
  It is delusional for sure. The kid that hits puberty is going to figure out a way to watch porn on their phone if they have a phone. The phone has to practically be useless for them to not figure this out. Parents are just in denial because the whole subject is so uncomfortable.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  How’d he/she do it?
cjrp 3y ago
> The same way a parent can make sure they are buying the right nutrients for their kids, they should be able to make sure they are consuming valuable content It's an interesting parallel, because after a certain age you really can't control everything a child eats. At some point they can make their own decisions, and you have to hope you've explained well enough that eating garbage for every meal will make you feel lousy. It's similar to technology/social media.
- arp242 3y ago
  The difficulty is that "lots of fries = bad because it makes you fat which kills you" is kind of easy to explain, and also fairly intuitive. "lots of Instagram = bad because subtle effects on your psyche" is much harder to understand, never mind explain. Never mind it's of course not quite that simple either.
  - cjrp 3y ago
    Very true, and also no (legal) food would be _that_ bad for you in a single serving. Compared to what you might see on social media, which could be quite damaging with no warning.

kgwxd 3y ago

You can’t actually limit anything. Kids that don’t have even a shred of technical know-how will walk to the ends of the earth to figure out how to get around it. My kid figuring out how to beat iPhone parental controls is my proudest moment as a parent.

storkhm 3y ago
It is delusional for sure. The kid that hits puberty is going to figure out a way to watch porn on their phone if they have a phone. The phone has to practically be useless for them to not figure this out. Parents are just in denial because the whole subject is so uncomfortable.
gnicholas 3y ago
How’d he/she do it?

cjrp 3y ago

> The same way a parent can make sure they are buying the right nutrients for their kids, they should be able to make sure they are consuming valuable content It's an interesting parallel, because after a certain age you really can't control everything a child eats. At some point they can make their own decisions, and you have to hope you've explained well enough that eating garbage for every meal will make you feel lousy. It's similar to technology/social media.

arp242 3y ago
The difficulty is that "lots of fries = bad because it makes you fat which kills you" is kind of easy to explain, and also fairly intuitive. "lots of Instagram = bad because subtle effects on your psyche" is much harder to understand, never mind explain. Never mind it's of course not quite that simple either.
- cjrp 3y ago
  Very true, and also no (legal) food would be _that_ bad for you in a single serving. Compared to what you might see on social media, which could be quite damaging with no warning.