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So your theory is that people go around upvoting posts based solely on them looking somewhat correct? I’ve never upvoted anything that didn’t help me solve a pr

by valine 3y ago

So your theory is that people go around upvoting posts based solely on them looking somewhat correct? I’ve never upvoted anything that didn’t help me solve a problem. I don’t imagine random upvotes are very common. Also, to your point about humor, in my experience GPTs are very bad at it. If a post is funny it’s most likely not AI generated. Your expectation that all talking meat should maintain a consistently somber decorum while online is, needless to say, unrealistic.

pwdisswordfishc 3y ago
I am not claiming GPT is any good at humor. I am claiming this is the sort of superficial quality that gets you upvotes on Stack Overflow. GPT is pretty good at superficial things. > Your expectation that all talking meat should maintain a consistently somber decorum while online is, needless to say, unrealistic. Everywhere on the Internet, probably not. In Stack Overflow answers, it wouldn’t be half bad. It’s what they are for. But I wouldn’t even go that far: for example, another’s answer joke that "That's a very complicated operator, so even ISO/IEC JTC1 (Joint Technical Committee 1) placed its description in two different parts of the C++ Standard." is fine in my book, as that answer is otherwise pretty informative. Unlike the one I linked to before, which is just a confusing mess of random access humor (superfluous Xkcd: <https://xkcd.com/1210/ https://xkcd.com/1210/>).
- valine 3y ago
  I’d say humor gets upvotes precisely because it’s not superficial. Humor arises from presenting ideas in a simple but still surprising new way. It takes insight into both the subject and the audience. Humor is practically the antithesis of dry AI content.
  - pwdisswordfishc 3y ago
    This is what the now-deleted answer said: > For larger numbers, C++20 introduces some more advanced looping features. First to catch i we can build an inverse loop-de-loop and deflect it onto the std::ostream. However, the speed of i is implementation-defined, so we can use the new C++20 speed operator <<i<< to speed it up. We must also catch it by building wall, if we don't, i leaves the scope and de referencing it causes undefined behavior. To specify the separator, we can use: Do you feel informed by this? Do you think a newbie would be? What kind of enlightening insight flows from this? This about as funny as the output of a Markov chain: extremely hilarious… for about 15 minutes, after which it just becomes boring.
    - valine 3y ago
      It was probably upvoted for the “inverse loop-de-loop”. That’s a great line.
      - pwdisswordfishc 3y ago
        So you admit it was for superficial reasons. Thank you for conceding my point.
        valine 3y ago
        I concede nothing. That clever play on words is comfortably outside the output distribution of a modern GPT. When the relationship between tokens can perplex a 175B parameter model, it’s no longer superficial.

by valine 3y ago

pwdisswordfishc 3y ago

I am not claiming GPT is any good at humor. I am claiming this is the sort of superficial quality that gets you upvotes on Stack Overflow. GPT is pretty good at superficial things. > Your expectation that all talking meat should maintain a consistently somber decorum while online is, needless to say, unrealistic. Everywhere on the Internet, probably not. In Stack Overflow answers, it wouldn’t be half bad. It’s what they are for. But I wouldn’t even go that far: for example, another’s answer joke that "That's a very complicated operator, so even ISO/IEC JTC1 (Joint Technical Committee 1) placed its description in two different parts of the C++ Standard." is fine in my book, as that answer is otherwise pretty informative. Unlike the one I linked to before, which is just a confusing mess of random access humor (superfluous Xkcd: <https://xkcd.com/1210/ https://xkcd.com/1210/>).

valine 3y ago
I’d say humor gets upvotes precisely because it’s not superficial. Humor arises from presenting ideas in a simple but still surprising new way. It takes insight into both the subject and the audience. Humor is practically the antithesis of dry AI content.
- pwdisswordfishc 3y ago
  This is what the now-deleted answer said: > For larger numbers, C++20 introduces some more advanced looping features. First to catch i we can build an inverse loop-de-loop and deflect it onto the std::ostream. However, the speed of i is implementation-defined, so we can use the new C++20 speed operator <<i<< to speed it up. We must also catch it by building wall, if we don't, i leaves the scope and de referencing it causes undefined behavior. To specify the separator, we can use: Do you feel informed by this? Do you think a newbie would be? What kind of enlightening insight flows from this? This about as funny as the output of a Markov chain: extremely hilarious… for about 15 minutes, after which it just becomes boring.
  - valine 3y ago
    It was probably upvoted for the “inverse loop-de-loop”. That’s a great line.
    - pwdisswordfishc 3y ago
      So you admit it was for superficial reasons. Thank you for conceding my point.
      - valine 3y ago
        I concede nothing. That clever play on words is comfortably outside the output distribution of a modern GPT. When the relationship between tokens can perplex a 175B parameter model, it’s no longer superficial.