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There's plenty of FOSS fediverse stuff that's very interesting, but until monetization is figured out, creators have little reason to push content there. Withou

There's plenty of FOSS fediverse stuff that's very interesting, but until monetization is figured out, creators have little reason to push content there. Without content, selfies and photos of lunch aren't going to interest many people. Take PeerTube—great on paper. Can you run ads on your instance to cover bandwidth and storage? No. Can you run ads on the videos you create? No. The alternative decentralized solutions themselves aren't the problem, it's the economics of it.

namaria 3y ago
> There's plenty of FOSS fediverse stuff that's very interesting, but until monetization is figured out, creators have little reason to push content there. Problem being, non monetized things are interesting because they are not monetized. If you make it possible to profit from them, they will go down the path of every other profitable system: all the goodness gets squeezed out to extract profit.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Then the problem of scale and incentive applies. There's no incentive to create/host interesting content if there's no way to recoup the costs for creating it and/or distributing it. I do agree that non-monetized things are interesting, however a lot of interesting things happen because there's an actual budget and means of supporting oneself and family. I say this as someone who ran a netlabel that gave away all their content for free, and still regularly gives away plenty of content that isn't directly monetized. The moment a tune saw any kind of popularity, bandwidth for free downloads became a problem in terms of scale (could no longer self-host from home) and then ultimately cost. Something could be decentralized and FOSS, but also allow you to inject your own ads. That isn't a difficult problem to solve, but PeerTube has no interest in doing it, yet would be a sure-fire way to turn it into a big deal.

namaria 3y ago

> There's plenty of FOSS fediverse stuff that's very interesting, but until monetization is figured out, creators have little reason to push content there. Problem being, non monetized things are interesting because they are not monetized. If you make it possible to profit from them, they will go down the path of every other profitable system: all the goodness gets squeezed out to extract profit.

hammyhavoc 3y ago
Then the problem of scale and incentive applies. There's no incentive to create/host interesting content if there's no way to recoup the costs for creating it and/or distributing it. I do agree that non-monetized things are interesting, however a lot of interesting things happen because there's an actual budget and means of supporting oneself and family. I say this as someone who ran a netlabel that gave away all their content for free, and still regularly gives away plenty of content that isn't directly monetized. The moment a tune saw any kind of popularity, bandwidth for free downloads became a problem in terms of scale (could no longer self-host from home) and then ultimately cost. Something could be decentralized and FOSS, but also allow you to inject your own ads. That isn't a difficult problem to solve, but PeerTube has no interest in doing it, yet would be a sure-fire way to turn it into a big deal.