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For me, the modern war on dogs is that I can only walk my dog in my neighborhood (I live near the beach), before 7am and after 6pm. I get it, there are plenty o

For me, the modern war on dogs is that I can only walk my dog in my neighborhood (I live near the beach), before 7am and after 6pm. I get it, there are plenty of bad dog owners. It is still just a bummer that a few bad seeds ruin the fun for everyone else.

WheatMillington 3y ago
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- latchkey 3y ago
  > Dog owners can walk their dogs in 99% of public spaces My point is that I can't walk my dog in those public spaces.
  - WheatMillington 3y ago
    In that small sample of very specific public places, yes, you are restricted. So go walking literally anywhere else.
    - latchkey 3y ago
      So, get in my car and drive to a public place where I can walk my dog? Makes perfect sense.
      - charcircuit 3y ago
        It is actually fairly common to go hiking with dogs.
        latchkey 3y ago
        Yea, and I take my dog hiking almost every weekend. Not sure what I should do the other 5 days a week though. The comments here are kind of classic though... just proving my point.
        throwaway_99999 3y ago
        Unfortunately. Going hiking with dogs hurts the delicate wildlife. Wild animals as well as free-roaming farm animals are very stressed out by the pure presence of these dogs, let alone by being chased. Especially near larger cities this puts enormous stress on those animals. Turns out, you can't have it both ways, being an animal lover and being a dog lover...
joegahona 3y ago
Dogs are completely forbidden during those hours? Or only off-leash is forbidden?
- latchkey 3y ago
  Dog always need to be on a leash.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Pretty hard to round up sheep that way.
    - latchkey 3y ago
      Especially at the beach.
      - defrost 3y ago
        'round here if the sheep are on the beach they've fallen off the cliff .. that's a whole other carcass of worms to deal with :(
        latchkey 3y ago
        No cliffs at my beach.
29athrowaway 3y ago
Realistically, if your dog needs walking you are a bad dog owner. Under this definition most dog ownership is bad. It means it lives in a confined space not meant for a dog. Dogs are for farms not cities.
- latchkey 3y ago
  You're thinking of a larger dog. This is a small dog (Bichon Frisé), with the temperament of a cat. Probably wouldn't survive long in the wild.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    Plenty of larger dogs are couch potatoes. Take your Newfie or Great Dane for a couple km and they're happy to snooze for the rest of the day. Plus dog walks aren't just for the benefit of the dog.
    - 29athrowaway 3y ago
      Open your front door and let's see if they prefer the sofa. A dog that loves your house is like the old guy in Shawshank Redemption that only has a life within the jail. If the dog was intelligent, would it still protect you from intruders? And if it didn't, would you still keep it around? If the dog was intelligent and it was truly part of your family, would you pay for its college tuition? Or do things you would do with an adopted member of your family like inheriting your house? Or it would be more like a slave that is only there to defend you? So, in the end, it is all just abuse. You kidnap an animal, then restrain it, neuter it so it cannot be aggressive, discipline it to adapt to an unreasonable and unnatural standard of cleanliness and behavior, etc. Your dog likes you because you took away its family and essentially marginalized it so that it is forced to bond only with you. And also because of artificial selection for those traits. If it was aware that it was kidnapped and forcibly sterilized it would never like you. You are just abusing a lesser form of intelligence.
  - 29athrowaway 3y ago
    It still does not belong in a human habitat no matter how much you want to make it a thing. A dog has to be among their own species and have a dog life. Cover large areas, sniff around, spread their scent, interact with other dogs, etc. In a human house, living in isolation among humans that have unreasonable expectations, a dog life simply sucks.
summm 3y ago
Where is that wonderland you live in? Around here there is only regulation that dogs cannot go unleashed on specially labelled public parks, such that they do not leave the paths. Many of those parks have playgrounds, public orchards and so on. But, as nobody enforces that, basically each time I take a walk there is at least one dog owner literally shitting (or, having their dog do so...) on that regulation. Same at supposedly dog-free lakes meant for human swimming. To me it looks like there are not a few bad seeds, but the majority of seeds are bad.

WheatMillington 3y ago

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latchkey 3y ago
> Dog owners can walk their dogs in 99% of public spaces My point is that I can't walk my dog in those public spaces.
- WheatMillington 3y ago
  In that small sample of very specific public places, yes, you are restricted. So go walking literally anywhere else.
  - latchkey 3y ago
    So, get in my car and drive to a public place where I can walk my dog? Makes perfect sense.
    - charcircuit 3y ago
      It is actually fairly common to go hiking with dogs.
      - latchkey 3y ago
        Yea, and I take my dog hiking almost every weekend. Not sure what I should do the other 5 days a week though. The comments here are kind of classic though... just proving my point.
      - throwaway_99999 3y ago
        Unfortunately. Going hiking with dogs hurts the delicate wildlife. Wild animals as well as free-roaming farm animals are very stressed out by the pure presence of these dogs, let alone by being chased. Especially near larger cities this puts enormous stress on those animals. Turns out, you can't have it both ways, being an animal lover and being a dog lover...

joegahona 3y ago

Dogs are completely forbidden during those hours? Or only off-leash is forbidden?

latchkey 3y ago
Dog always need to be on a leash.
- defrost 3y ago
  Pretty hard to round up sheep that way.
  - latchkey 3y ago
    Especially at the beach.
    - defrost 3y ago
      'round here if the sheep are on the beach they've fallen off the cliff .. that's a whole other carcass of worms to deal with :(
      - latchkey 3y ago
        No cliffs at my beach.

29athrowaway 3y ago

Realistically, if your dog needs walking you are a bad dog owner. Under this definition most dog ownership is bad. It means it lives in a confined space not meant for a dog. Dogs are for farms not cities.

latchkey 3y ago
You're thinking of a larger dog. This is a small dog (Bichon Frisé), with the temperament of a cat. Probably wouldn't survive long in the wild.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  Plenty of larger dogs are couch potatoes. Take your Newfie or Great Dane for a couple km and they're happy to snooze for the rest of the day. Plus dog walks aren't just for the benefit of the dog.
  - 29athrowaway 3y ago
    Open your front door and let's see if they prefer the sofa. A dog that loves your house is like the old guy in Shawshank Redemption that only has a life within the jail. If the dog was intelligent, would it still protect you from intruders? And if it didn't, would you still keep it around? If the dog was intelligent and it was truly part of your family, would you pay for its college tuition? Or do things you would do with an adopted member of your family like inheriting your house? Or it would be more like a slave that is only there to defend you? So, in the end, it is all just abuse. You kidnap an animal, then restrain it, neuter it so it cannot be aggressive, discipline it to adapt to an unreasonable and unnatural standard of cleanliness and behavior, etc. Your dog likes you because you took away its family and essentially marginalized it so that it is forced to bond only with you. And also because of artificial selection for those traits. If it was aware that it was kidnapped and forcibly sterilized it would never like you. You are just abusing a lesser form of intelligence.
- 29athrowaway 3y ago
  It still does not belong in a human habitat no matter how much you want to make it a thing. A dog has to be among their own species and have a dog life. Cover large areas, sniff around, spread their scent, interact with other dogs, etc. In a human house, living in isolation among humans that have unreasonable expectations, a dog life simply sucks.

summm 3y ago

Where is that wonderland you live in? Around here there is only regulation that dogs cannot go unleashed on specially labelled public parks, such that they do not leave the paths. Many of those parks have playgrounds, public orchards and so on. But, as nobody enforces that, basically each time I take a walk there is at least one dog owner literally shitting (or, having their dog do so...) on that regulation. Same at supposedly dog-free lakes meant for human swimming. To me it looks like there are not a few bad seeds, but the majority of seeds are bad.