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IMHO, the pandemic has ripped off the mask of living in the US; those in power would see you rather die (from Covid) rather than risk losing a dollar. Other co

IMHO, the pandemic has ripped off the mask of living in the US; those in power would see you rather die (from Covid) rather than risk losing a dollar. Other countries have not been as harsh, yes long lockdowns, but also social support and money. Once people saw that those in power would rather see you die than inconvenience them, an entire generation stopped believing in the social contract. After that things fall apart.

astrange 3y ago
This is almost entirely false, since the US had more generous support during COVID than any other country and nobody "in power" wanted you to die except maybe Andrew Cuomo, but instead worked on vaccine acceleration. It's easy to spot incoherent politics since those afflicted just say "people in power", don't say who they mean, and it always turns out to be something the average voter supports. (The average voter doesn't particularly care if you're alive or not.)
- a_bonobo 3y ago
  If your reply were correct, then why did so many millions of Americans die? You've about a million Covid deaths, and about a hundred million cases. By number of deaths the US is number 1 by far (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/). The internet is full of stories were working class people got Covid because they had no other choice, here's a random citation: >Californians in manual labor and in-person service occupations experienced disproportionate COVID-19 mortality, with the highest rates observed among male, Latino, and Black workers; these occupational group should be prioritized for prevention. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0266058 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... If US support was so amazing as you claim, why do these numbers exist? Why are they so much higher than other countries?
  - astrange 3y ago
    Cause there was a pandemic. Nobody dying is not a possibility. The best you can do is protect 80+ people, who are far more at risk than anyone else. Staying home is a middle class fantasy though. You can't just keep the entire country home or you'll run out of food and the sewers will fail in a week. Not to mention many people don't want to do that and would rather take the death. Nevertheless, the US gave out approx $2400/month in CARES Act unemployment support, which is more than anyone else.

astrange 3y ago

This is almost entirely false, since the US had more generous support during COVID than any other country and nobody "in power" wanted you to die except maybe Andrew Cuomo, but instead worked on vaccine acceleration. It's easy to spot incoherent politics since those afflicted just say "people in power", don't say who they mean, and it always turns out to be something the average voter supports. (The average voter doesn't particularly care if you're alive or not.)

a_bonobo 3y ago
If your reply were correct, then why did so many millions of Americans die? You've about a million Covid deaths, and about a hundred million cases. By number of deaths the US is number 1 by far (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/). The internet is full of stories were working class people got Covid because they had no other choice, here's a random citation: >Californians in manual labor and in-person service occupations experienced disproportionate COVID-19 mortality, with the highest rates observed among male, Latino, and Black workers; these occupational group should be prioritized for prevention. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0266058 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... If US support was so amazing as you claim, why do these numbers exist? Why are they so much higher than other countries?
- astrange 3y ago
  Cause there was a pandemic. Nobody dying is not a possibility. The best you can do is protect 80+ people, who are far more at risk than anyone else. Staying home is a middle class fantasy though. You can't just keep the entire country home or you'll run out of food and the sewers will fail in a week. Not to mention many people don't want to do that and would rather take the death. Nevertheless, the US gave out approx $2400/month in CARES Act unemployment support, which is more than anyone else.