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Emerging science supported by multiple studies suggests 4x boosters may have actually hurt more than they helped: https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/repeated-

Emerging science supported by multiple studies suggests 4x boosters may have actually hurt more than they helped: https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/repeated-covid-19-vaccination-weakens-immune-system-study_5305770.html https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/repeated-covid-19-vacci...

terminatornet 3y ago
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- lockhouse 3y ago
  https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart Looks just right of center to me.
  - terminatornet 3y ago
    this chart says msnbc and the new york times is far left of center, not sure how much value i'd put in it
    - lockhouse 3y ago
      It’s the New York Times opinion columns that it calls far left (which I’d call accurate), while it considers the news articles to be just left of center.
    - vkou 3y ago
      The NYT is far left if you define the center to be somewhere to the right of Mitt Romney.
      - lockhouse 3y ago
        I think it’s a fair assessment that NY Times opinion articles have a far left bias and their news articles have a left of center bias. I think it’s a fairly accurate chart in my experience overall.
        HWR_14 3y ago
        When is the last time you saw a far left columnist in the NYT?
        ModernMech 3y ago
        I’ve never seen the NYT opinions section advocate for far left positions, like abolishing money for instance. Calling the NYT far left is like calling Joe Biden a socialist.
        lockhouse 3y ago
        Left and right are loaded terms at this point. There’s left as in socialism and there’s left as in woke.
- hammock 3y ago
  Didn't know that. It does seem in this case, they are just reporting on the studies as far as I can see. Here is the source material from Science, Nature, Vaccines, BMJ and other peer-reviewed medical journals: Extended SARS-CoV-2 RBD booster vaccination induces humoral and cellular immune tolerance in mice https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004222017515 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S258900422... Class switch toward noninflammatory, spike-specific IgG4 antibodies after repeated SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798 https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798 Assessment of avidity related to IgG subclasses in SARS-CoV-2 Brazilian infected patients https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95045-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95045-z Interleukin-6 blockade with sarilumab in severe COVID-19 pneumonia with systemic hyperinflammation: an open-label cohort study https://ard.bmj.com/content/79/10/1277.abstract https://ard.bmj.com/content/79/10/1277.abstract IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/11/5/991 https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/11/5/991 Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Naturally Acquired Immunity versus Vaccine-induced Immunity, Reinfections versus Breakthrough Infections: A Retrospective Cohort Study https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/75/1/e545/6563799?login=false https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/75/1/e545/6563799?login... Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Bivalent Vaccine https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/6/ofad209/7131292?login=false https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/6/ofad209/7131292?l...
  - npunt 3y ago
    This is literally how modern internet propaganda works: selective reporting that provides enough truth to be plausible but omits enough and/or distorts to avoid being comprehensive and accurate. There's lots of studies that discuss both the pros and cons of this subject - this epochtimes article has pointed out the ones that on their face support their narrative, and (very very very likely, given their well-earned reputation) omitted those that don't, and may/probably have come to a conclusion that the study authors would not have. This is why everyone's so stupid right now: we're all overconfident that we understand the small shreds of evidence we have and that they're the complete picture, and that overconfidence means we talk past each other in our separate realities. The only way to get around this is a) be an expert who has a comprehensive view of the range of evidence and what precisely it means (hard), b) be humble about what we can understand, select our sources extremely carefully, and get multiple perspectives (medium), or c) ignore the noise and wait for broad consensus (easy but slow and not perfect).
- lumb63 3y ago
  Please refer to the community guidelines [1]: > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity. If you have any specific qualms with the content of the article, we’d love to hear them, but a publication’s political leanings does not have any impact on its veracity. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - DiogenesKynikos 3y ago
    When a publication has no credibility, it's entirely reasonable to point that out. This is the publication arm of Falun Gong, which is a cult that could be described as the Chinese version of Scientology.

terminatornet 3y ago

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lockhouse 3y ago
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart Looks just right of center to me.
- terminatornet 3y ago
  this chart says msnbc and the new york times is far left of center, not sure how much value i'd put in it
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    It’s the New York Times opinion columns that it calls far left (which I’d call accurate), while it considers the news articles to be just left of center.
  - vkou 3y ago
    The NYT is far left if you define the center to be somewhere to the right of Mitt Romney.
    - lockhouse 3y ago
      I think it’s a fair assessment that NY Times opinion articles have a far left bias and their news articles have a left of center bias. I think it’s a fairly accurate chart in my experience overall.
      - HWR_14 3y ago
        When is the last time you saw a far left columnist in the NYT?
      - ModernMech 3y ago
        I’ve never seen the NYT opinions section advocate for far left positions, like abolishing money for instance. Calling the NYT far left is like calling Joe Biden a socialist.
        lockhouse 3y ago
        Left and right are loaded terms at this point. There’s left as in socialism and there’s left as in woke.
hammock 3y ago
Didn't know that. It does seem in this case, they are just reporting on the studies as far as I can see. Here is the source material from Science, Nature, Vaccines, BMJ and other peer-reviewed medical journals: Extended SARS-CoV-2 RBD booster vaccination induces humoral and cellular immune tolerance in mice https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004222017515 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S258900422... Class switch toward noninflammatory, spike-specific IgG4 antibodies after repeated SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798 https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798 Assessment of avidity related to IgG subclasses in SARS-CoV-2 Brazilian infected patients https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95045-z https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95045-z Interleukin-6 blockade with sarilumab in severe COVID-19 pneumonia with systemic hyperinflammation: an open-label cohort study https://ard.bmj.com/content/79/10/1277.abstract https://ard.bmj.com/content/79/10/1277.abstract IgG4 Antibodies Induced by Repeated Vaccination May Generate Immune Tolerance to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/11/5/991 https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/11/5/991 Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Naturally Acquired Immunity versus Vaccine-induced Immunity, Reinfections versus Breakthrough Infections: A Retrospective Cohort Study https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/75/1/e545/6563799?login=false https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/75/1/e545/6563799?login... Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Bivalent Vaccine https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/6/ofad209/7131292?login=false https://academic.oup.com/ofid/article/10/6/ofad209/7131292?l...
- npunt 3y ago
  This is literally how modern internet propaganda works: selective reporting that provides enough truth to be plausible but omits enough and/or distorts to avoid being comprehensive and accurate. There's lots of studies that discuss both the pros and cons of this subject - this epochtimes article has pointed out the ones that on their face support their narrative, and (very very very likely, given their well-earned reputation) omitted those that don't, and may/probably have come to a conclusion that the study authors would not have. This is why everyone's so stupid right now: we're all overconfident that we understand the small shreds of evidence we have and that they're the complete picture, and that overconfidence means we talk past each other in our separate realities. The only way to get around this is a) be an expert who has a comprehensive view of the range of evidence and what precisely it means (hard), b) be humble about what we can understand, select our sources extremely carefully, and get multiple perspectives (medium), or c) ignore the noise and wait for broad consensus (easy but slow and not perfect).
lumb63 3y ago
Please refer to the community guidelines [1]: > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity. If you have any specific qualms with the content of the article, we’d love to hear them, but a publication’s political leanings does not have any impact on its veracity. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- deleted 3y ago
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- DiogenesKynikos 3y ago
  When a publication has no credibility, it's entirely reasonable to point that out. This is the publication arm of Falun Gong, which is a cult that could be described as the Chinese version of Scientology.