>> "This vulnerability does not exist on Intel-based consumer PCs with consumer firmware." Yet it did exist on computers used by senators, lawyers, executives,

>> "This vulnerability does not exist on Intel-based consumer PCs with consumer firmware." Yet it did exist on computers used by senators, lawyers, executives, everyone I mentioned. Consumers are not the high value targets. >> This vulnerability was responsibly disclosed to Intel The vulnerability was uncovered and well known of by very many private espionage teams for a very long time. If this wasn't already obvious to you then your view of the world is too sheepish and naive to meaningfully participate in discussion about this kind of topic. >> I am not seeing all of these fatal 0 days that you are talking about. Those of us in the offensive security space see vulnerabilities that could be exploited "locally", anywhere where bad code could get running on the ME as critical too. Getting SYSTEM or root (the former being easier because of that OS' particular culture) is generally easier than it should be. Intel ME makes it a much bigger problem than it otherwise would have to be. While you most likely are not, you come across as a shill.