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As a foreign developer living in Austria I'd like to offer a counter perspective: that might be why Austria, even in the tech scene has some of the lowest and l

As a foreign developer living in Austria I'd like to offer a counter perspective: that might be why Austria, even in the tech scene has some of the lowest and least flexibly WFH possibilities I've ever seen in any EU job market: so the bosses can keep a close eye on you at the office, because they can't via SW. Every job I applied to, even the most liberal ones mandates at least 2 day per week at the office in the best case, with some SW companies having max 1 day per week WFH because "we're more efficient at the office" lol. Every time I ask at an interview if they let me work 100% from home, so I don't waste 2h/day commuting, they look at me like I asked them to let me f*ck their mom. Also, many Austrian companies keep rigid track of your time and breaks at the office via electronic card punch in/out systems which are a government mandated legalized forms of workplace surveillance, meaning I have to spend 8h per day at the office regardless of my work being done in 5 and unable to do anything remotely productive for the remaining 3 because my brain is fried, while some companies even make you punch out for coffee breaks so you're not taking a break on your employer's dime, meaning you need to spend even more time at the office what's beyond your legal allowed 30 min lunch break which is also not included in your 8h closely-recorded workday. So IMHO, it's not all as progresive as you make it sound. It feels like an archaic system designed to keep unionized factory workers strictly in line to their mandated 30 min lunch breaks and making sure no overtime occurs on their shift, but is severely out of place in the world of digital knowledge work where it's used in some companies to keep employees at the office glued for 8 hours to their chairs.

SoftTalker 3y ago
Are you paid by the hour? Any job I've ever had with such rigid time tracking requirements was a hourly paid position. This sort of thing backfires on the employer in my opinion. It's quite easy to stretch a task to fill 8 hours if you have to be there anyway. But maybe you'd be happy to clock out after 5 hours one day and take a few extra unpaid hours for yourself. If your work is done, the employer should be happy to save a little money and let you do that.
- Haemm0r 3y ago
  Quite sure he is. Usually All-In contracts don't log their time in Austria.
  - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
    Nope, regular employee. All work time is tracked by law in Austria, it's just that all-in is less invasive on the time tracking because it doesn't care for overtime because it's not paid.
lnsru 3y ago
Interviewing around Munich and big players have policies between 3 days in the office on the strict end and “please, show sometimes in the office” on easy going end. C’mon, it’s big step forward already from 5 years ago when people had occasionally Fridays home office. However I am stuck in the company with toxic culture from 1995, they really exist! Full back to the office!
- hef19898 3y ago
  I once had an employer, for a short time, that sold a flexible working time model. No clocking of exact hours, back when that was still normal, WFH. The day I started they handed me the detailed docs to sign: core presence hours at the office wherw more than the 40 hours I signed up for (the amounted to basicall, 10 net hours per day), WFH required Managing Director approval and was never granted. The culture was so toxic, no recyvling company wpuld have ever touched it... The head of im-house sales was regularly asked, well more like ordered, to walk the Managing Directors dog... Horrible place.

SoftTalker 3y ago

Are you paid by the hour? Any job I've ever had with such rigid time tracking requirements was a hourly paid position. This sort of thing backfires on the employer in my opinion. It's quite easy to stretch a task to fill 8 hours if you have to be there anyway. But maybe you'd be happy to clock out after 5 hours one day and take a few extra unpaid hours for yourself. If your work is done, the employer should be happy to save a little money and let you do that.

Haemm0r 3y ago
Quite sure he is. Usually All-In contracts don't log their time in Austria.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago
  Nope, regular employee. All work time is tracked by law in Austria, it's just that all-in is less invasive on the time tracking because it doesn't care for overtime because it's not paid.

lnsru 3y ago

Interviewing around Munich and big players have policies between 3 days in the office on the strict end and “please, show sometimes in the office” on easy going end. C’mon, it’s big step forward already from 5 years ago when people had occasionally Fridays home office. However I am stuck in the company with toxic culture from 1995, they really exist! Full back to the office!

hef19898 3y ago
I once had an employer, for a short time, that sold a flexible working time model. No clocking of exact hours, back when that was still normal, WFH. The day I started they handed me the detailed docs to sign: core presence hours at the office wherw more than the 40 hours I signed up for (the amounted to basicall, 10 net hours per day), WFH required Managing Director approval and was never granted. The culture was so toxic, no recyvling company wpuld have ever touched it... The head of im-house sales was regularly asked, well more like ordered, to walk the Managing Directors dog... Horrible place.