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You don't actually have any definition of "alt right", it's a made up term used to mean anyone who isn't an extreme progressive. > Even they are not silenced b

You don't actually have any definition of "alt right", it's a made up term used to mean anyone who isn't an extreme progressive. > Even they are not silenced by the government, so even their free speech is being protected. They are very much being silenced by the government. See the Twitter Files for just one piece of evidence. You aren't aware of it because of course, evidence of suppression is the first thing that gets suppressed by any such system. Regardless, the reason the government is usually treated as special in these discussions it because it was previously assumed that the government was the only entity that could systematically suppress speech. That isn't the case any longer. Fundamentally you won't be able morally to complain if one day the left is being systematically censored, cancelled and driven underground, because as you admit, that is your own goal too.

karmakurtisaani 3y ago
> You don't actually have any definition of "alt right", it's a made up term used to mean anyone who isn't an extreme progressive. I will certainly not start wasting my time defining these terms - I'm sure most of us agree close enough who we mean here. Hint: it's not "anyone who isn't an extreme progressive", as for example Dick Cheney is not alt right. > They are very much being silenced by the government. See the Twitter Files for just one piece of evidence. This is nothing new. See Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky. However, everything that's being censored in Twitter is still freely publishable on an independent forum - the government will not persecute the publisher. Free speech doesn't mean any garbage must be tolerated in all platforms. It just means government won't come after you for trying to get it out wherever you can. > Regardless, the reason the government is usually treated as special in these discussions it because it was previously assumed that the government was the only entity that could systematically suppress speech. That isn't the case any longer. The government is clearly a special case, since it's the only of its kind - and at least on paper should serve its people. Private corporations have only the shareholders to please. > Fundamentally you won't be able morally to complain if one day the left is being systematically censored, cancelled and driven underground, because as you admit, that is your own goal too. But I am already unhappy that many inconvenient topics are not highlighted in the media! It's just simply not a freedom of speech issue.

karmakurtisaani 3y ago

> You don't actually have any definition of "alt right", it's a made up term used to mean anyone who isn't an extreme progressive. I will certainly not start wasting my time defining these terms - I'm sure most of us agree close enough who we mean here. Hint: it's not "anyone who isn't an extreme progressive", as for example Dick Cheney is not alt right. > They are very much being silenced by the government. See the Twitter Files for just one piece of evidence. This is nothing new. See Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky. However, everything that's being censored in Twitter is still freely publishable on an independent forum - the government will not persecute the publisher. Free speech doesn't mean any garbage must be tolerated in all platforms. It just means government won't come after you for trying to get it out wherever you can. > Regardless, the reason the government is usually treated as special in these discussions it because it was previously assumed that the government was the only entity that could systematically suppress speech. That isn't the case any longer. The government is clearly a special case, since it's the only of its kind - and at least on paper should serve its people. Private corporations have only the shareholders to please. > Fundamentally you won't be able morally to complain if one day the left is being systematically censored, cancelled and driven underground, because as you admit, that is your own goal too. But I am already unhappy that many inconvenient topics are not highlighted in the media! It's just simply not a freedom of speech issue.