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For an alternate take on this: https://twitter.com/ethicalskeptic/status/1664657442225963009?s=46 https://twitter.com/ethicalskeptic/status/166465744222596300..

For an alternate take on this: https://twitter.com/ethicalskeptic/status/1664657442225963009?s=46 https://twitter.com/ethicalskeptic/status/166465744222596300... His data suggests that the rate of rise in ocean temperatures can not possibly be due to man made circumstances and is instead due to earth core leakage.

adrianN 3y ago
Clearly the lizard people from Earth's hollow core are responsible.
- slily 3y ago
  Yes, let's shut down the contrarians by making fun of them or calling them words, there is clearly no room to discuss complex phenomena, as we have learned in the last few years dealing with COVID-19 "misinformation".
  - edgefield 3y ago
    OP wouldn’t be so skeptical except for the fact that 99% of scientists have been raising the alarm bells about climate change for 50 years and mainly politicians and commentators, often with little to no expertise and significantly biased due to fossil fuel connections and donations, have been questioning and undermining the science.
    - nightski 3y ago
      I think that just demonstrates the point that maybe scientists put too much emphasis on the science itself when what really matters is influencing people.
    - slily 3y ago
      [flagged]
  - adrianN 3y ago
    There certainly is no room to discuss them on Twitter. If the Twitter person has real data they should try writing a paper. There are about eight billion people who would love to see the CO2-theory of climate change falsified. They'd be a hero, trillions of dollars of unnecessary investment prevented, everybody rejoices.
    - adonig 3y ago
      > If the Twitter person has real data His data is the data from the website this HN thread links to. He's just pointing out that 32% of Sea Surface Temperature (SST) warming since 1995 arrived in a mere 3 weeks of 2023 and asks the question how that is possible.
      - adrianN 3y ago
        Right, and then they propose an alternative theory. Time to collect evidence, perhaps code up a model, compute some errors bars and submit it to peer review. You know, build a case why your theory is better than what we have so far. Right now they have about as much substance as my suggestion with the Lizard people has.
edgefield 3y ago
How does the earth have a core if it’s flat? Taps head…
- milgrim 3y ago
  It’s not the core that’s leaking, it’s the underfloor heating…
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Buttons840 3y ago
He seems to believe that humankind will have a smooth and linear effect on the climate, and that if we've had a smooth and linear effect in the past, it will always remain smooth and linear. The climate is complex enough that tipping points can exist.
adonig 3y ago
It's interesting all the responses below here go full ad hominem.
- diordiderot 3y ago
  At this point he mays as well be refuting gravity
  - adonig 3y ago
    That's called a dogma then, and no you can't compare gravity to human-made climate change.
semicolon_storm 3y ago
This is such a poor interpretation of the data that it almost seems intentional. They're cherry-picking an arbitrary year for comparison over an arbitrary time range. There's many years you can select to draw similar bad comparisons. For example, select 2021 & 2015 and look at Feb 28 - March 5. Are you going to believe a sensationalist claim that "90% of SST rise between 2021 & 2015 arrived in 2 weeks"? Hopefully not, because that's a bad comparison and ignores that temperature fluctuates up and down
- comicjk 3y ago
  This is a classic math pitfall, described by mathematician Jordan Ellenberg as "Don’t talk about percentages of numbers when the numbers might be negative" because they're more often confusing than illuminating. https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/06/how-not-to-be-wrong-how-to-lie-with-negative-numbers.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/06/how-not-to-be-wrong...

adrianN 3y ago

Clearly the lizard people from Earth's hollow core are responsible.

slily 3y ago
Yes, let's shut down the contrarians by making fun of them or calling them words, there is clearly no room to discuss complex phenomena, as we have learned in the last few years dealing with COVID-19 "misinformation".
- edgefield 3y ago
  OP wouldn’t be so skeptical except for the fact that 99% of scientists have been raising the alarm bells about climate change for 50 years and mainly politicians and commentators, often with little to no expertise and significantly biased due to fossil fuel connections and donations, have been questioning and undermining the science.
  - nightski 3y ago
    I think that just demonstrates the point that maybe scientists put too much emphasis on the science itself when what really matters is influencing people.
  - slily 3y ago
    [flagged]
- adrianN 3y ago
  There certainly is no room to discuss them on Twitter. If the Twitter person has real data they should try writing a paper. There are about eight billion people who would love to see the CO2-theory of climate change falsified. They'd be a hero, trillions of dollars of unnecessary investment prevented, everybody rejoices.
  - adonig 3y ago
    > If the Twitter person has real data His data is the data from the website this HN thread links to. He's just pointing out that 32% of Sea Surface Temperature (SST) warming since 1995 arrived in a mere 3 weeks of 2023 and asks the question how that is possible.
    - adrianN 3y ago
      Right, and then they propose an alternative theory. Time to collect evidence, perhaps code up a model, compute some errors bars and submit it to peer review. You know, build a case why your theory is better than what we have so far. Right now they have about as much substance as my suggestion with the Lizard people has.

edgefield 3y ago

How does the earth have a core if it’s flat? Taps head…

milgrim 3y ago
It’s not the core that’s leaking, it’s the underfloor heating…

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Buttons840 3y ago

He seems to believe that humankind will have a smooth and linear effect on the climate, and that if we've had a smooth and linear effect in the past, it will always remain smooth and linear. The climate is complex enough that tipping points can exist.

adonig 3y ago

It's interesting all the responses below here go full ad hominem.

diordiderot 3y ago
At this point he mays as well be refuting gravity
- adonig 3y ago
  That's called a dogma then, and no you can't compare gravity to human-made climate change.

semicolon_storm 3y ago

This is such a poor interpretation of the data that it almost seems intentional. They're cherry-picking an arbitrary year for comparison over an arbitrary time range. There's many years you can select to draw similar bad comparisons. For example, select 2021 & 2015 and look at Feb 28 - March 5. Are you going to believe a sensationalist claim that "90% of SST rise between 2021 & 2015 arrived in 2 weeks"? Hopefully not, because that's a bad comparison and ignores that temperature fluctuates up and down

comicjk 3y ago
This is a classic math pitfall, described by mathematician Jordan Ellenberg as "Don’t talk about percentages of numbers when the numbers might be negative" because they're more often confusing than illuminating. https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/06/how-not-to-be-wrong-how-to-lie-with-negative-numbers.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/06/how-not-to-be-wrong...