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Any rumours of a 5?

beebeepka 3y ago
No need. The CEO said (in an interview with the "explaining computers" YouTube channel) 2023 will be about fixing supply of existing models. It's reasonable to expect the 5 to arrive in 2024 at the earliest. Personally, I wouldn't expect super fast m2 ports and whatnot. Frankly, at this point I am ready to spend a bit more and get a proper 5800u mini pc or something. Waiting for AMD's Zen 4 APUs to hit the market. They are not going to be cheap, though
- sapiogram 3y ago
  > It's reasonable to expect the 5 to arrive in 2024 at the earliest My expectation is 2025 at the earliest, tbh. Mostly based on the CEO's repeated statements, and the complete lack of rumors about any developments. If a new lineup of PIs were going to launch next year, they'd have to be pretty late in development already.
- RF_Savage 3y ago
  I wouldn't hold my breath for small AMD based boards. For example PC Engines (they make the APU and ALIX boards) has stated that AMD is increasingly difficult to work with as a small manufacturer. And all their old SoC's have been EOLed.
- bemusedthrow75 3y ago
  I really wish they would decide not to do it at all. Put all the high-performance work into the CM units of different specifications. Make (or encourage the market to continue to make) mainboards that take those units. Maybe certify a couple of them for the Foundation's use. And then focus on making microcontroller-level chips at different performance levels, up to an "alternative home computer" device. Something small, which can be learned completely. Enough power for something equivalent to a Minix or a CP/M or RISC OS. The RP2040 is almost there anyway.
  - cdcarter 3y ago
    I have always been slightly annoyed that the RP2040 didn't feature a RISC-V core to being with, with a 2nd gen that includes the privilege mode specification. RP2040 as it stands is nearly capable of being "learned completely" and providing something like an OS, but having a hardware MMU really makes a different experience. Of course, the ARM architecture has an MMU spec too, but I've got a soft spot for RISC-V.
orra 3y ago
Alas, no. “Don't expect a Pi 5 five next year,” Upton said [in December 2022], explaining that the Pi team sees 2023 as a year to spend “recovering from what just happened to all of us [COVID, supply chain issues].” https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/21/no_rpi_5_2023/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/21/no_rpi_5_2023/
- worldofmatthew 3y ago
  The raspberry pi becomes even more outdated....
  - Narishma 3y ago
    That was never a problem for them.
- kytazo 3y ago
  I'm wondering why other manufacturers don't look like impacted as much from the covid supply chain disruptions as they pose to be in every given chance.
  - 4gotunameagain 3y ago
    I think it has to do with the fact that the majority of their product line is based on a few very specific SoCs that are quite hard to replace so fast.

Any rumours of a 5?

No need. The CEO said (in an interview with the "explaining computers" YouTube channel) 2023 will be about fixing supply of existing models. It's reasonable to expect the 5 to arrive in 2024 at the earliest. Personally, I wouldn't expect super fast m2 ports and whatnot. Frankly, at this point I am ready to spend a bit more and get a proper 5800u mini pc or something. Waiting for AMD's Zen 4 APUs to hit the market. They are not going to be cheap, though

sapiogram 3y ago
> It's reasonable to expect the 5 to arrive in 2024 at the earliest My expectation is 2025 at the earliest, tbh. Mostly based on the CEO's repeated statements, and the complete lack of rumors about any developments. If a new lineup of PIs were going to launch next year, they'd have to be pretty late in development already.
RF_Savage 3y ago
I wouldn't hold my breath for small AMD based boards. For example PC Engines (they make the APU and ALIX boards) has stated that AMD is increasingly difficult to work with as a small manufacturer. And all their old SoC's have been EOLed.
bemusedthrow75 3y ago
I really wish they would decide not to do it at all. Put all the high-performance work into the CM units of different specifications. Make (or encourage the market to continue to make) mainboards that take those units. Maybe certify a couple of them for the Foundation's use. And then focus on making microcontroller-level chips at different performance levels, up to an "alternative home computer" device. Something small, which can be learned completely. Enough power for something equivalent to a Minix or a CP/M or RISC OS. The RP2040 is almost there anyway.
- cdcarter 3y ago
  I have always been slightly annoyed that the RP2040 didn't feature a RISC-V core to being with, with a 2nd gen that includes the privilege mode specification. RP2040 as it stands is nearly capable of being "learned completely" and providing something like an OS, but having a hardware MMU really makes a different experience. Of course, the ARM architecture has an MMU spec too, but I've got a soft spot for RISC-V.

orra 3y ago

Alas, no. “Don't expect a Pi 5 five next year,” Upton said [in December 2022], explaining that the Pi team sees 2023 as a year to spend “recovering from what just happened to all of us [COVID, supply chain issues].” https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/21/no_rpi_5_2023/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/21/no_rpi_5_2023/

worldofmatthew 3y ago
The raspberry pi becomes even more outdated....
- Narishma 3y ago
  That was never a problem for them.
kytazo 3y ago
I'm wondering why other manufacturers don't look like impacted as much from the covid supply chain disruptions as they pose to be in every given chance.
- 4gotunameagain 3y ago
  I think it has to do with the fact that the majority of their product line is based on a few very specific SoCs that are quite hard to replace so fast.