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> Lying is intentional That's an interesting issue. When Gwyneth Paltrow is making strange statements about efficiency of certain procedures or aspects of huma
by hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
> Lying is intentional
That's an interesting issue. When Gwyneth Paltrow is making strange statements about efficiency of certain procedures or aspects of human health, a lot of what she says is untrue. However, by your definition, she is not lying as she (most probably...) believes what she says.
Many people are repeating lies in good faith. The fact they believe them doesn't magically make what they say true.
- usr1106 3y agoInteresting. Of course semantics of natural language is not formally defined. For me it sounds like lying and telling lies is not necessarily the same thing.
- honzabe 3y ago> by your definition I think that is commonly shared definition. We distinguish lying from just being wrong. Saying untrue things in good faith, as Gwyneth Paltrow in your example, is not lying.
- hdjjhhvvhga 3y agoI've just checked what Merriam-Webster says. It seems to accept both meanings but uses inanimate objects for the examples: > 2 > : to create a false or misleading impression > Statistics sometimes lie. > The mirror never lies.
- voidhorse 3y agoWell, yeah. There's a distinction between lying and being incorrect. I do think the parent is right in that when we accuse someone of lying, we're mostly accusing them of making assertions or statements they don't believe to be true (actually, this means that their lies could actually be factually correct—all that really matters is the the author of the utterance does not actually believe in the truth value of what they are saying)
- lamontcg 3y agoIf someone believes their own bullshit/lies or not, you're just as bad off if you believe them.