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Is there something similar to this, but for school-grade mathematics? I agree with this manifesto wholeheartedly, just it’s too damn difficult to think of all

by murkt 3y ago

Is there something similar to this, but for school-grade mathematics? I agree with this manifesto wholeheartedly, just it’s too damn difficult to think of all the whys on the spot to get my son to be interested in that. He’s doing “remote learning” at home, it’s basically Coursera-like lessons, since his school was hit by artillery during the first month of the war with Russia, and it still doesn’t work.

danielmarkbruce 3y ago
If your kid likes sports, there are endless lessons to teach around it.
- murkt 3y ago
  True, we’re going ice skating with him regularly, and it’s a great source of lessons. Doesn’t help very much with math, though :)
  - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
    Baseball? Cricket? Soccer? Basketball? Football? They are all full of numbers - ie the comment was supposed to imply math lessons.
    - murkt 3y ago
      I know nothing about baseball, cricket and American football, they’re practically non-existent here. Basketball and soccer are full of numbers? For 3-4 years old they are. Maybe there could be some lessons for older kids, I just can’t think of how to spin it that way. A month ago I told him an old and tired joke. 90 degrees is a right angle, and 100 degrees is when water boils (celsius FTW). He howled with laughter and sure knows now some things about angles and circles.
      - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
        There are a lot of stats in basketball. There are measurements, counting, probabilities, geometry, algebra and calculus. You can do physics too.
defrost 3y ago
Depends upon your son but perhaps youtube + forum engagement with others centred about math channels that have lower+upper school and university material. > It follows that we must not introduce any topic for which we cannot first convince the students that they should want to pursue it. There are several good math related youtube channels and they have the advantage of allowing viewers to find questions | topics that they find of interest and then pursue .. which can lead to following for the latest releases and discussing with others that comment. Matt is very engaging and there's a fair bit of back and forth from others on his channel comments which might take your son down a path of greater engagement and exploration. https://www.youtube.com/user/standupmaths https://www.youtube.com/user/standupmaths
alimw 3y ago
"In Intellectual Mathematics a topic is introduced only when the student can be convinced of the value of doing so." If I understand this correctly, you cannot bend the approach to the teaching of any particular topic (e.g. what's in your son's homework this week). Rather you would have to bite the bullet and teach your own parallel course, abandoning the school curriculum to the teachers.
- murkt 3y ago
  It’s already practically abandoned, he has only to pass “exams” twice a year, which is quite easy for him and doesn’t take much time. He finished second grade in February. It doesn’t bring much understanding, though. It’s hard to create parallel curriculum for my kids, while I have my startup running. And the war isn’t helping either, with air alerts and rockets/drones trying to strike Kyiv seemingly every night. Would be helpful to have concrete examples, directions, etc.

by murkt 3y ago

danielmarkbruce 3y ago

If your kid likes sports, there are endless lessons to teach around it.

murkt 3y ago
True, we’re going ice skating with him regularly, and it’s a great source of lessons. Doesn’t help very much with math, though :)
- danielmarkbruce 3y ago
  Baseball? Cricket? Soccer? Basketball? Football? They are all full of numbers - ie the comment was supposed to imply math lessons.
  - murkt 3y ago
    I know nothing about baseball, cricket and American football, they’re practically non-existent here. Basketball and soccer are full of numbers? For 3-4 years old they are. Maybe there could be some lessons for older kids, I just can’t think of how to spin it that way. A month ago I told him an old and tired joke. 90 degrees is a right angle, and 100 degrees is when water boils (celsius FTW). He howled with laughter and sure knows now some things about angles and circles.
    - danielmarkbruce 3y ago
      There are a lot of stats in basketball. There are measurements, counting, probabilities, geometry, algebra and calculus. You can do physics too.

defrost 3y ago

Depends upon your son but perhaps youtube + forum engagement with others centred about math channels that have lower+upper school and university material. > It follows that we must not introduce any topic for which we cannot first convince the students that they should want to pursue it. There are several good math related youtube channels and they have the advantage of allowing viewers to find questions | topics that they find of interest and then pursue .. which can lead to following for the latest releases and discussing with others that comment. Matt is very engaging and there's a fair bit of back and forth from others on his channel comments which might take your son down a path of greater engagement and exploration. https://www.youtube.com/user/standupmaths https://www.youtube.com/user/standupmaths

alimw 3y ago

"In Intellectual Mathematics a topic is introduced only when the student can be convinced of the value of doing so." If I understand this correctly, you cannot bend the approach to the teaching of any particular topic (e.g. what's in your son's homework this week). Rather you would have to bite the bullet and teach your own parallel course, abandoning the school curriculum to the teachers.

murkt 3y ago
It’s already practically abandoned, he has only to pass “exams” twice a year, which is quite easy for him and doesn’t take much time. He finished second grade in February. It doesn’t bring much understanding, though. It’s hard to create parallel curriculum for my kids, while I have my startup running. And the war isn’t helping either, with air alerts and rockets/drones trying to strike Kyiv seemingly every night. Would be helpful to have concrete examples, directions, etc.