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My PCP hated these sorts of policies, so if you needed a 'doctors note' from him, he would put down whatever you wanted. No work for a week and then no heavy li
by genocidicbunny 3y ago
My PCP hated these sorts of policies, so if you needed a 'doctors note' from him, he would put down whatever you wanted. No work for a week and then no heavy lifting for a month after? Sure. Need to sleep in and start work no earlier than 11am? Sure! He'd write these out as a prescription too, which was helpful in shutting up HR after.
- alistairSH 3y agoI’ve seen the same. That’s the way to do it, IMO. Employer doesn’t trust employees to use sick leave appropriately, they should pay the price. Or we could just legislate some sanity. 10 days sick and 15 days holiday minimum nationally. But that would make too much sense.
- cameronh90 3y agoSick days shouldn't be countable except in extreme cases. If someone is unfortunate enough to get something that requires extended time off work, losing income shouldn't be a worry. What is needed is a national insurance scheme that pays your salary when sick beyond some minimum that your employer has to cover.
- alistairSH 3y agoTotally agree. I was just thinking baby steps towards something reasonable.
- arcbyte 3y agoHow could it possibly be reasonable?
- alistairSH 3y agoHow could codified leave be reasonable? I’m not sure what you’re asking?
- hgsgm 3y agoI think if you are out 2 weeks, requiring some official documentation is reasonable.
- genocidicbunny 3y agoI think in most circumstances, 2 weeks illness would qualify as some level of 'extreme' -- that's rarely something not serious. So you and the parent are probably in agreement.
- genewitch 3y ago"The Crud", which is a southern US ailment that lasts weeks, it makes you cough and snotty, and generally lethargic. It isn't awful, but when you feel it coming on you're in for at least 2-3 weeks. It isn't serious, at all. It's just similar to or a cold that generally presents in the warm months. Some jobs coughing and whatnot is frowned upon.
- bandyaboot 3y agoI live in the northern part of the US and it’s not uncommon for people to refer to common viral infections as crud or “feeling cruddy” regardless of what time of year it occurs. But, it’s not taken to mean anything more than another way of saying you have a cold. Though I kind of understand because the combination of hot weather and cold symptoms just makes it feel worse.
- bavell 3y agoLived in the south my whole life and never heard of this once
- genewitch 3y agoI've been informed that it's possible it's a Louisiana (or thereabouts) thing. And it may be the common cold (whatever that means), but the cough lasts multiple weeks, and there's no medicine for it except guaifenesin and dextromethorphan. I've lived in the PNW, i was raised in LA County, CA, and i've spent a decade and a half in the US South. I bet there's things you've heard of in the south that i've never heard of, too.
- doublepg23 3y agoDoesn’t FMLA come into play during those circumstances? I had an extended leave and there was no issue once my manager worked with me to do the FMLA documentation.
- antasvara 3y agoFMLA isn't required to be paid. That depends on what state you live in.
- scarface_74 3y agoPrivate insurance for that is relatively cheap.
- bavell 3y ago(Devil's advocate) And employers will be happy to cover it for their employees, especially since they'll be paying them 10-20% less to account for their increased costs :)
- efaref 3y agoIf they could get away with paying 10-20% less, don't you think they'd do it now in a heartbeat?
- batch12 3y agoI have seen companies, that when confronted by this, that will send the employee to a physician vetted by the company to confirm the need for accommodation.
- nickpeterson 3y agoIn the end it isn’t about the loss of money, it’s the loss of power. An agreeable doctor giving you reasonable time off to mend feels like letting employees claw back power. It’s the same with work from home policies, they’re not interested in performance, it’s control.
- kortilla 3y agoIt’s really not. It’s money. A lost employee that you still have to pay for is a huge expense. Most companies costs are dominated by labor costs so anything that could be gamed there that would drive up that cost is scrutinized significantly.
- djbusby 3y agoSo? Aren't these companies "good at business"? They should be able to plan around it - if they are in fact good at business. Many of these fast food places have executives whos monthly compensation exceeds the YEARLY compensation of these front-line employees. Its for sure not a money problem - it's an allocation problem.
- dietr1ch 3y agoBeing good at business means that they know where they can easily push and get away with it to get more money in the long run. Making it unreasonable hard to take time off will end up in fewer time off over time, and it only takes a couple words from management.
- kortilla 3y agoBeing good at business means ensuring you’re not being ripped off on labor costs. We’ve come full circle.