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> The UI doesn't have anything to do with it. I'm going to disagree somewhat...I think it has _some_ to do with it. I think the UI acts as a sort of pre-filte

> The UI doesn't have anything to do with it. I'm going to disagree somewhat...I think it has _some_ to do with it. I think the UI acts as a sort of pre-filter. I think just having a list of boring looking text (like HN) draws some types of people and repels others.

krapp 3y ago
>I think just having a list of boring looking text (like HN) draws some types of people and repels others. It is true that HN draws some types of people and repels others, but I think it's because of the culture more than the UI. I mean, old Reddit looked almost exactly like HN and it's as mainstream as a site could be. Craigslist was even more minimalist than HN.
- atleastoptimal 3y ago
  Old reddit was at least a bit more tech and intellectual adjacent than new reddit. The "mainstreamification" of Reddit came largely with the UI change and mobile app. Even with old Reddit it was more mainstream because of UI aspects YC doesn't have (social media sharing, video embedding, custom subreddit CSS)
basch 3y ago
I do like some things better about https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/ as a front page. The left numbers almost act as a bar graph to tell you how popular something is, and it is otherwise chronological. High text interfaces are also dense compared to modern mobile touch based interfaces trying to render on a desktop. https://signalvnoise.com/posts/1407-why-the-drudge-report-is-one-of-the-best-designed-sites-on-the-web https://signalvnoise.com/posts/1407-why-the-drudge-report-is...
- sshine 3y ago
  I also like hckrnews.com because of chronological and the lights of the numbers. I find that some of them are not highlighted even though the numbers seem high enough. I'm sure it's an algorithm cut-off thing, but I'd like if the lighting scale was a little more linear.
SilasX 3y ago
This. I’ve long thought that you get better users when you filter out the people who both need the site to be pretty and are incapable of tweaking it on their end.
tennisflyi 3y ago
Chans look pretty similar...
- xcdzvyn 3y ago
  I'd wager HN has a larger overlap with /g/ than Reddit does.

krapp 3y ago

>I think just having a list of boring looking text (like HN) draws some types of people and repels others. It is true that HN draws some types of people and repels others, but I think it's because of the culture more than the UI. I mean, old Reddit looked almost exactly like HN and it's as mainstream as a site could be. Craigslist was even more minimalist than HN.

atleastoptimal 3y ago
Old reddit was at least a bit more tech and intellectual adjacent than new reddit. The "mainstreamification" of Reddit came largely with the UI change and mobile app. Even with old Reddit it was more mainstream because of UI aspects YC doesn't have (social media sharing, video embedding, custom subreddit CSS)

basch 3y ago

I do like some things better about https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/ as a front page. The left numbers almost act as a bar graph to tell you how popular something is, and it is otherwise chronological. High text interfaces are also dense compared to modern mobile touch based interfaces trying to render on a desktop. https://signalvnoise.com/posts/1407-why-the-drudge-report-is-one-of-the-best-designed-sites-on-the-web https://signalvnoise.com/posts/1407-why-the-drudge-report-is...

sshine 3y ago
I also like hckrnews.com because of chronological and the lights of the numbers. I find that some of them are not highlighted even though the numbers seem high enough. I'm sure it's an algorithm cut-off thing, but I'd like if the lighting scale was a little more linear.

SilasX 3y ago

This. I’ve long thought that you get better users when you filter out the people who both need the site to be pretty and are incapable of tweaking it on their end.

tennisflyi 3y ago

Chans look pretty similar...

xcdzvyn 3y ago
I'd wager HN has a larger overlap with /g/ than Reddit does.