> my question would simply be: Are they getting the work you expect done finished in a timely manner (comparable to others on your team)? If so, regardless of a

> my question would simply be: Are they getting the work you expect done finished in a timely manner (comparable to others on your team)? If so, regardless of any other point, what is the problem? No, they are not getting comparable work done. That’s literally the entire problem I was trying to describe. > If not, then why didn't you address the issue quickly since you mention you're the one who hired them. Why do you assume I’m not addressing the issue? I specifically said it took heavy management interaction to try to keep them on track. This is the same argument that always comes up: If they “get their work done” then what’s the problem? If they got their work done I wouldn’t care. The problem is that they don’t get their work done in a timely manner and/or they sandbag to exaggerate how long their work will take so they can do minimal work, thereby shifting the workload to their teammates who are actually honest.