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I mean, you're not saying that this project is "closed source" either, right? So what is it if not "open source" on the scale between closed and open? "Half-op

by antris 3y ago

I mean, you're not saying that this project is "closed source" either, right? So what is it if not "open source" on the scale between closed and open? "Half-open source"? "Leaked source" only refers to the way the source has initially began to be distributed, not whether it's open/closed right now.

mrob 3y ago
The middle ground is "source available", although that usually means source made available by the copyright holder under terms that don't meet the Open Source/Free Software definitions. I think just "leaked source" is the best terminology here.
- antris 3y ago
  Ah, found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software I see, never heard of that term. Still wish there was a term that encompassed all software that has publically available source code. I thought "open source" was it. The literal meaning of the term aligns so beautifully with it.
- ZoomZoomZoom 3y ago
  Source Available is the worst of both, unless there's a way to reproducibly build the source and check the results against the shipped product. False sense of security and no legal ways to use the code.
dgellow 3y ago
It’s more like someone illegally distributing a closed source program.
paulddraper 3y ago
"Leaked source" Like, you wouldn't call a pirated movie "free". I mean, it is, but only by violating copyright law.
- antris 3y ago
  Of course I would call a pirated movie free, because that's what it is. Free isn't a synonym for good or legal.
  - paulddraper 3y ago
    Anything at the store is free too, you just have to avoid paying.
  - grodriguez100 3y ago
    “Free” is related to the concept of property, which is a legal concept. If something is “free” that means that you can get it legally without paying. If something is only “free” by circumventing law, then that’s theft.
geon 3y ago
This is definitely closed source. It is also leaked.

by antris 3y ago

mrob 3y ago

The middle ground is "source available", although that usually means source made available by the copyright holder under terms that don't meet the Open Source/Free Software definitions. I think just "leaked source" is the best terminology here.

antris 3y ago
Ah, found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software I see, never heard of that term. Still wish there was a term that encompassed all software that has publically available source code. I thought "open source" was it. The literal meaning of the term aligns so beautifully with it.
ZoomZoomZoom 3y ago
Source Available is the worst of both, unless there's a way to reproducibly build the source and check the results against the shipped product. False sense of security and no legal ways to use the code.

dgellow 3y ago

It’s more like someone illegally distributing a closed source program.

paulddraper 3y ago

"Leaked source" Like, you wouldn't call a pirated movie "free". I mean, it is, but only by violating copyright law.

antris 3y ago
Of course I would call a pirated movie free, because that's what it is. Free isn't a synonym for good or legal.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  Anything at the store is free too, you just have to avoid paying.
- grodriguez100 3y ago
  “Free” is related to the concept of property, which is a legal concept. If something is “free” that means that you can get it legally without paying. If something is only “free” by circumventing law, then that’s theft.

geon 3y ago

This is definitely closed source. It is also leaked.