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And that is a serious problem.

by hluska 3y ago

colesantiago 3y ago
A serious problem of what? You know you can block people or just log off and move on right? It really is not that serious.
- f6v 3y ago
  I mean, if someone says a group of people should be killed based on their political stance or sexual orientation that should be a criminal offense. And I might not support all of the groups these days, but I reject blanket statements like “all transgenders are pedophiles”. This is stupid and wrong. And if teenagers are tweeting this, they’re going to end up very stupid adults.
  - colesantiago 3y ago
    That is their problem and we shouldn't make this our problem. If we are going after Twitter, we should also go after shutting down other internet cesspools like Gab, the chan boards and others. The power I have is logging off and not feeding these trolls, that seemed to work well all the time.
    - f6v 3y ago
      It’s our problem as a society and more precisely law enforcement problem. If you say that you want to put bullets in someone offline you should be prosecuted. Internet is not different.
      - colesantiago 3y ago
        If you want to go for Twitter, that is fine, I'm just saying you should go after all the sites that have 'hateful' content.
- hluska 3y ago
  You’re looking at this purely through your own lens, but I choose to look at this in terms of society as a whole. We have young people parroting extremist points of view. That’s a societal failure. Where did our education and child care systems go so wrong as to make extremism this attractive? Carried through to its natural conclusion, we will end up in fascist states, young people will end up in prison or we’ll end up with more innocent victims. All options are bad, it’s just a question of worst.
  - colesantiago 3y ago
    That is a bit of a stretch here for Twitter. The chan boards fit more of this example you're talking about of this sort of behavior which predates Twitter. No moderation, no blocking, just 24/7/365 of hate all day. Yet, for 20 years it isn't erased from the web. Twitter may be bigger, but I would say those chan boards that are smaller are much much worse.
    - hluska 3y ago
      And for the final time, my point is that both of these are symptoms of something far worse.
      - colesantiago 3y ago
        Targeting Twitter and trying to fix what happens at childhood will not or reduce stop hate online. Adults can still disseminate hate on other online channels. Usually ignoring them, not giving them attention and just sending them to the forces. Should you really give attention to them, the wisdom of the crowd that engages in (doxxing) is already a major deterrent, although I disagree with this, which is why ignoring them already works.

And that is a serious problem.

by hluska 3y ago

And that is a serious problem.

A serious problem of what? You know you can block people or just log off and move on right? It really is not that serious.

f6v 3y ago
I mean, if someone says a group of people should be killed based on their political stance or sexual orientation that should be a criminal offense. And I might not support all of the groups these days, but I reject blanket statements like “all transgenders are pedophiles”. This is stupid and wrong. And if teenagers are tweeting this, they’re going to end up very stupid adults.
- colesantiago 3y ago
  That is their problem and we shouldn't make this our problem. If we are going after Twitter, we should also go after shutting down other internet cesspools like Gab, the chan boards and others. The power I have is logging off and not feeding these trolls, that seemed to work well all the time.
  - f6v 3y ago
    It’s our problem as a society and more precisely law enforcement problem. If you say that you want to put bullets in someone offline you should be prosecuted. Internet is not different.
    - colesantiago 3y ago
      If you want to go for Twitter, that is fine, I'm just saying you should go after all the sites that have 'hateful' content.
hluska 3y ago
You’re looking at this purely through your own lens, but I choose to look at this in terms of society as a whole. We have young people parroting extremist points of view. That’s a societal failure. Where did our education and child care systems go so wrong as to make extremism this attractive? Carried through to its natural conclusion, we will end up in fascist states, young people will end up in prison or we’ll end up with more innocent victims. All options are bad, it’s just a question of worst.
- colesantiago 3y ago
  That is a bit of a stretch here for Twitter. The chan boards fit more of this example you're talking about of this sort of behavior which predates Twitter. No moderation, no blocking, just 24/7/365 of hate all day. Yet, for 20 years it isn't erased from the web. Twitter may be bigger, but I would say those chan boards that are smaller are much much worse.
  - hluska 3y ago
    And for the final time, my point is that both of these are symptoms of something far worse.
    - colesantiago 3y ago
      Targeting Twitter and trying to fix what happens at childhood will not or reduce stop hate online. Adults can still disseminate hate on other online channels. Usually ignoring them, not giving them attention and just sending them to the forces. Should you really give attention to them, the wisdom of the crowd that engages in (doxxing) is already a major deterrent, although I disagree with this, which is why ignoring them already works.