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That's true, but it's also beside the point. I don't care enough about transformers to put statues of them in my yard, either. But he does. They're not hurting
by jaredhallen 3y ago
That's true, but it's also beside the point. I don't care enough about transformers to put statues of them in my yard, either. But he does. They're not hurting anyone, and he went to presumably significant effort and expense to do something different and express himself. Good on him. He can be cool whether one likes the statues or not.
- archerx 3y agoIt would hurt me to look at that everyday. He can put them in his house where he can look at them all he wants without forcing it upon the world.
- ddingus 3y agoSadly, there are few expectations in public. I get it and find various things unpleasant myself, but the public spaces are public. And that had to mean something or we all lose. We all have options too. Don't look, travel a different route, move, etc...
- archerx 3y agoIf that is the case I should be allowed to remix it, repaint and re-sculpt it into something better, it is a public space and we have options after all?
- tedunangst 3y agoWould you object to the same being done to you in a public space?
- archerx 3y agoYou see, I am not a thing/object so apples/oranges.
- ddingus 3y agoNope. You can do you, on your public facing property same and they do them. Now, true street art works as you say and many call that graffiti.
- archerx 3y agoWell in that case, I'm sure I can depend on some anonymous friendly neighborhood vandals to deal with these crimes against taste and art. The thing with graffiti is it is not protected, if someone makes an awful piece someone can just go paint over it unlike this tasteless man that is forcing his bad taste upon the world with no way to "respond".
- ddingus 3y agoFreedom is scary. We all must deal with it. Fact is, that art is as offensive as you think it is. True for everyone. Responding with crime is profoundly selfish.
- archerx 3y agoForcing people to look at very large ugly corporate statues because you have bad taste and too much money is profoundly selfish.
- ddingus 3y agoLike I said, freedom is scary. Can't hardly count the number of people who say they are all about free expression, until it is something they don't like. Factor all those dislikes in, and call those people selfish and if we were to actually entertain that (badly) broken reasoning, the resulting set of permissible expression would likely be more constrained than it currently is in regions of the world controlled by fundemental religious theocrats. And the vast majority of those people would easily say the people living under fundamentalism deserve better! That's bat shit. Full on, hot, fresh bat shit cray, cray. I get it. You just don't like the art. Join the club. We all see stuff every day we don't like. And someone here mentioned the cool Flintstone house in California. That is totally relevant! You see, people, who appear to align well with the opinion you have put here, have tried repeatedly to have it taken down. And their reason was the same as the one you are putting here; namely, they just don't like it and somehow that must mean the world needs to respond and GET RID OF THAT SHIT because? [ insert it here ] And they failed. As they should! We have a First Amendment for good reason. This discussion is the reason. Heck, you basically said crime for hire was an acceptable response! Good grief! And then you try and call selfish somehow? You flat out lost me. Seems like a botch to me, like the kind of botch others point to and proclaim their basic joy that they were not the one who botched it that badly. No Joke!
- matthew9219 3y agoHow would it hurt you? The American Heritage Dictionary gives three definitions of hurt: > 1. To cause physical damage or pain to (an individual or a body part); injure. > 2. To experience injury or pain to or in (an individual or a body part). > 3. To cause mental or emotional suffering to; distress. Does looking at them cause you mental or emotional suffering? What if I said that it caused me the same mental or emotional suffering anytime anybody wore a tshirt? Would you also say people should only wear tshirts inside?
- archerx 3y ago7 Billion people wearing t-shirts vs 2 statues, not the same, sorry. There are laws for offensive shirts though so yes, specific t-shirts can cause emotional suffering and could land the person wearing it in a lot of trouble based on hate speech and obscenity laws.
- matthew9219 3y agoDo you think these statues are hate speech or obscenity?
- storkhm 3y agoIt is even more ridiculous when there are about 3 months of the year when people decorate their front lawn with giant snow men with blinking lights, giant skulls and witches that blink off and on or giant Easter Bunnies and eggs on the front lawn, corn stalks... Surely, even some of the people complaining about this have a giant inflatable reindeer in storage that they look forward to putting on their lawn. We are fine with decorations as long as it is only 25% of the year. More than 25%? What are you crazy and a deviant?