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That certainly aged poorly. Whoever wrote that had no clue what the next decade of Red Hat would actually be like. When this was written, desktop Linux still l

That certainly aged poorly. Whoever wrote that had no clue what the next decade of Red Hat would actually be like. When this was written, desktop Linux still looked like this https://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/debian-lenny-gnome-desktop.png https://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/debian-lenny-gnom... and by 2018 a new set of desktop interoperability standards had been introduced and incorporated into most Linux desktops, with Red Hat as the main organization behind this.

pjmlp 3y ago
Where is the desktop product? https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/all-products https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/all-products I see cloud, OpenShift, SAP, embedded, servers, desktop not really.
- creatonez 3y ago
  Their desktop products are Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation, Red Hat Edge, and the Red Hat Universal Base Image build system. The former is used heavily in particle physics laboratories (CERN and Fermilab use a mix of RHEL, Alma, CentOS) as well as some niche graphics workstations. The latter two are used for a lot of different things, but can be used to manage automatically-updating company-assigned desktops/laptops, and the tools behind it have been extended by the community to offer consumer-grade desktops like UBlue. They have deep involvement in a ton of different Linux desktop technologies. They also package the Red Hat Flatpak repository, which is the RH equivalent of Fedora Flatpaks. These are Flatpaks that are built by combining the RPM build process with additional flatpak-specific metadata. There is ARM support for all of this, unlike Flathub which is spotty on non-x86-64 architectures. Currently RH Flatpaks is a "tech preview" feature of RHEL9, but it will likely be more fleshed out in RHEL10. https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux/workstations https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enter... https://www.redhat.com/en/products/edge https://www.redhat.com/en/products/edge https://redhat-connect.gitbook.io/partner-guide-for-red-hat-openshift-and-container/program-on-boarding/containers-with-red-hat-universal-base-image-ubi https://redhat-connect.gitbook.io/partner-guide-for-red-hat-... (Not a Red Hat project) https://ublue.it/ https://ublue.it/ https://catalog.redhat.com/software/containers/rhel9/inkscape-flatpak/6144523d1ea8a4ec32b378e2 https://catalog.redhat.com/software/containers/rhel9/inkscap...
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    CERN researchers mostly use Windows and macOS, even if the LHC cluster is powered by Linux. Back in 2003 - 2004, I was one of the few in my group, ATLAS/TDAQ, that bothered to have a laptop with Scientific Linux, and I doubt it has changed. All of those projects are a by product that Red-Hat Enterprise Linux also needs a graphical user interface, not a desktop product on its own.
    - rowanG077 3y ago
      To say it was like this in 20 years ago and I doubt it has changed is pretty crass. Especially for such as Desktop Linux which is essentially unrecognizable from 20 years ago.
      - pjmlp 3y ago
        It has hardly changed beyond 1%, so I stand by my assumption. One of the reasons why eventually I moved from a UNIX zealot, to someone that uses Google, Apple and Microsoft platforms. And with exception of an aging netbook, only as Desktop VM. Also as long as there is some form of POSIX support, it is good enough, regardless of the OS.

pjmlp 3y ago

Where is the desktop product? https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/all-products https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/all-products I see cloud, OpenShift, SAP, embedded, servers, desktop not really.

creatonez 3y ago
Their desktop products are Red Hat Enterprise Linux Workstation, Red Hat Edge, and the Red Hat Universal Base Image build system. The former is used heavily in particle physics laboratories (CERN and Fermilab use a mix of RHEL, Alma, CentOS) as well as some niche graphics workstations. The latter two are used for a lot of different things, but can be used to manage automatically-updating company-assigned desktops/laptops, and the tools behind it have been extended by the community to offer consumer-grade desktops like UBlue. They have deep involvement in a ton of different Linux desktop technologies. They also package the Red Hat Flatpak repository, which is the RH equivalent of Fedora Flatpaks. These are Flatpaks that are built by combining the RPM build process with additional flatpak-specific metadata. There is ARM support for all of this, unlike Flathub which is spotty on non-x86-64 architectures. Currently RH Flatpaks is a "tech preview" feature of RHEL9, but it will likely be more fleshed out in RHEL10. https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enterprise-linux/workstations https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enter... https://www.redhat.com/en/products/edge https://www.redhat.com/en/products/edge https://redhat-connect.gitbook.io/partner-guide-for-red-hat-openshift-and-container/program-on-boarding/containers-with-red-hat-universal-base-image-ubi https://redhat-connect.gitbook.io/partner-guide-for-red-hat-... (Not a Red Hat project) https://ublue.it/ https://ublue.it/ https://catalog.redhat.com/software/containers/rhel9/inkscape-flatpak/6144523d1ea8a4ec32b378e2 https://catalog.redhat.com/software/containers/rhel9/inkscap...
- pjmlp 3y ago
  CERN researchers mostly use Windows and macOS, even if the LHC cluster is powered by Linux. Back in 2003 - 2004, I was one of the few in my group, ATLAS/TDAQ, that bothered to have a laptop with Scientific Linux, and I doubt it has changed. All of those projects are a by product that Red-Hat Enterprise Linux also needs a graphical user interface, not a desktop product on its own.
  - rowanG077 3y ago
    To say it was like this in 20 years ago and I doubt it has changed is pretty crass. Especially for such as Desktop Linux which is essentially unrecognizable from 20 years ago.
    - pjmlp 3y ago
      It has hardly changed beyond 1%, so I stand by my assumption. One of the reasons why eventually I moved from a UNIX zealot, to someone that uses Google, Apple and Microsoft platforms. And with exception of an aging netbook, only as Desktop VM. Also as long as there is some form of POSIX support, it is good enough, regardless of the OS.