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The bias in the writer is so absurd. It's like in order to talk about the enemy you constantly have to remark how ebil they are compared to us. Obviously, we mo

The bias in the writer is so absurd. It's like in order to talk about the enemy you constantly have to remark how ebil they are compared to us. Obviously, we modern liberal democrats possess none of their defects. This juxtaposition of BBC reporting on DPRK overlaid on the british queen funeral procession[0] brilliantly demonstrates the kind of bias I'm talking about, and how it's more often than not a form of projection of one own issues on others. A few examples of the bias I'm talking about and how it can as easily be applied to "liberal" societies: One notable event chronicled in Manhoff’s diary is his participation in the May Day parade of 1953. He vividly describes the grandiosity of the event, with its elaborate displays of military might and the orchestrated enthusiasm of the Soviet people. It becomes evident that the parade was a carefully choreographed spectacle, designed to showcase the Soviet Union’s ideology and power to the world. Literally any parade involves a "choreographed spectacle" as it's always about showcasing power to the world. Despite the pervasive atmosphere of control and suspicion, Manhoff’s diary also reveals moments of genuine connection and warmth between him and the Soviet citizens. This pervasive atmosphere is nowhere to be seen in the pictures, but of course they had to remind you that these are the ebil commies. The pictures alone look too human otherwise. The secret police played a crucial role in maintaining the conformity necessary for the survival of the socialist regime. Easily reversed: The NSA and FBI played a crucial role in maintaining the conformity necessary for the survival of the capitalist regime. Understanding life in the Soviet Union during this era requires delving into the intricacies of the state-controlled society, the hardships faced by ordinary citizens, and the pervasive ideology that permeated every aspect of life. Easily reversed: Understanding life in the USA during this era requires delving into the intricacies of the capital-controlled society, the hardships faced by ordinary citizens, and the pervasive ideology that permeated every aspect of life. .0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9y-jabN5sg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9y-jabN5sg

cpursley 3y ago
If you think that’s bad, read or watch any western coverage of anything to do with Russia - pre or post invasion. And I mean topics even far outside the realms of politics or war. It’s being happening since the Great Game geopolitical competition.
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petesergeant 3y ago
Interesting to me that the French have no issue at all with military parades, but it would raise a lot of eyebrows in the US, and in the UK any such thing is much more a silly hats and swords affair. I wonder if the French take on the military is more that it’s a tool of the people and in the Anglosphere it’s considered more a tool of the state.
- pastacacioepepe 3y ago
  Just had a big one yesterday in Italy[0]. Look what a "carefully choreographed spectacle" that is. .0: https://stream24.ilsole24ore.com/video/italia/2-giugno-migliaia-parata-la-festa-repubblica/AEqC69ZD https://stream24.ilsole24ore.com/video/italia/2-giugno-migli...
golergka 3y ago
> This pervasive atmosphere is nowhere to be seen in the pictures You could have just asked any survivor of these times. As yourself: would you write a similar comment about Nazi Germany? May be you would consider it insensitive to the millions of its victims? Well, your comment about USSR is insensitive exactly for the same reasons. I was born in that country, many members of my family have had to survive through it, and many didn't — just as many others have been killed by the Nazis. And westerners who, out of mistrust to their government, begin to whitewash Soviet union make my blood boil. You're as bad as holocaust deniers.
- flohofwoe 3y ago
  > would you write a similar comment about Nazi Germany? This is spot on, if anything, the 'grandiose' May-parade photos remind me of 1930's Nazi Germany (and back then - before Germany invaded Poland - there was a similar fascination in some corners of western society with this sort of aesthetics).
  - golergka 3y ago
    The more you study fascism and communism, the more you realize it’s exactly the same thing with different branding. Of course, they're also each other's worst enemies, just like Coca-Cola and Pepsi are.
    - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
      > it’s exactly the same thing with different branding Yet capitalists will consistenly pick fascism, when given the choice. Pretty weird, considering it's exactly the same thing. You are conflating fascism and communism with authoritarianism. A more in depth and unbiased study might give you the ability to grasp such subtle differences.
      - golergka 3y ago
        > Yet capitalists will consistenly pick fascism, when given the choice. No, capitalists choose laissez-faire. What you are referring to are state capitalists, and they are essentially the same everywhere: whether it’s Mikoyan in the USSR, Gustav Krupp in Nazi Germany, or Dick Cheney in the United States. They all utilize the state’s monopoly on violence to maintain their economic control.
epolanski 3y ago
> This pervasive atmosphere is nowhere to be seen in the pictures, but of course they had to remind you that these are the ebil commies. My mother was an avid polish communist born and raised in communist Poland and there isn't a communist country that she didn't travel from east Germany to Uzbekistan and Yugoslavia. Yes, as you point out, people living in the Soviet Union were just normal people with their everyday problems: the boss, the colleagues, groceries, buying some new tech (e.g. radio), family, health, etc. I think it is very false to depict secret police as having such a huge role in everyday's Russia life. What was slightly different in Soviet Russia compared to other countries members of the Warsaw Pact is that there was more control on movement. She and my father too recollect how going to some village 80 miles from Moscow had them stopped and controlled for documents and purpose of their trip like 4 times. That tended to fade the further you went and increase around major cities like Moscow. I wouldn't really say secret police had such a huge role in day by day, but the "police state" of control did. Other things that were quite heavily controlled were phone calls. People had all kinds of secret codes when communicating with people abroad because everyone assumed someone was listening and recording. But I really cannot stress how average Ivan didn't really care or felt all of that control nor cared unless he did something heavily (politically) risky. I often ask my family that lived in the Warsaw Pact countries, either in Russia, mostly Poland and Ukraine if they didn't feel there was a lack of freedom, etc, and they all said they didn't care nor think about it at all. They were thinking where to go to vacation, what to prepare for lunch or sporting activities, etc. It should also be noted that all of those countries never experienced a much "different" state of affairs. My grandmother was born in Nazi Germany, her mother under the Haubsburg's Austrian empire, her husband was born in Prussia. And they all were born in a 30 miles radius. There was always a ruler, repression and control. If anything, for those people, communist regimes brought the most freedom and best standard of lives they ever even dreamed of. It only got in the late 70s and early 80s that the system started tracking, people weren't blind and could see that people in western countries had it much better and kept growing while communist countries capped in their economic and social evolution. New generations didn't even remember the Tsarist or Prussian times, they looked at America, at West Germany at France and thought the situation was bad.
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cpursley 3y ago

If you think that’s bad, read or watch any western coverage of anything to do with Russia - pre or post invasion. And I mean topics even far outside the realms of politics or war. It’s being happening since the Great Game geopolitical competition.

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petesergeant 3y ago

Interesting to me that the French have no issue at all with military parades, but it would raise a lot of eyebrows in the US, and in the UK any such thing is much more a silly hats and swords affair. I wonder if the French take on the military is more that it’s a tool of the people and in the Anglosphere it’s considered more a tool of the state.

pastacacioepepe 3y ago
Just had a big one yesterday in Italy[0]. Look what a "carefully choreographed spectacle" that is. .0: https://stream24.ilsole24ore.com/video/italia/2-giugno-migliaia-parata-la-festa-repubblica/AEqC69ZD https://stream24.ilsole24ore.com/video/italia/2-giugno-migli...

golergka 3y ago

> This pervasive atmosphere is nowhere to be seen in the pictures You could have just asked any survivor of these times. As yourself: would you write a similar comment about Nazi Germany? May be you would consider it insensitive to the millions of its victims? Well, your comment about USSR is insensitive exactly for the same reasons. I was born in that country, many members of my family have had to survive through it, and many didn't — just as many others have been killed by the Nazis. And westerners who, out of mistrust to their government, begin to whitewash Soviet union make my blood boil. You're as bad as holocaust deniers.

flohofwoe 3y ago
> would you write a similar comment about Nazi Germany? This is spot on, if anything, the 'grandiose' May-parade photos remind me of 1930's Nazi Germany (and back then - before Germany invaded Poland - there was a similar fascination in some corners of western society with this sort of aesthetics).
- golergka 3y ago
  The more you study fascism and communism, the more you realize it’s exactly the same thing with different branding. Of course, they're also each other's worst enemies, just like Coca-Cola and Pepsi are.
  - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
    > it’s exactly the same thing with different branding Yet capitalists will consistenly pick fascism, when given the choice. Pretty weird, considering it's exactly the same thing. You are conflating fascism and communism with authoritarianism. A more in depth and unbiased study might give you the ability to grasp such subtle differences.
    - golergka 3y ago
      > Yet capitalists will consistenly pick fascism, when given the choice. No, capitalists choose laissez-faire. What you are referring to are state capitalists, and they are essentially the same everywhere: whether it’s Mikoyan in the USSR, Gustav Krupp in Nazi Germany, or Dick Cheney in the United States. They all utilize the state’s monopoly on violence to maintain their economic control.

epolanski 3y ago

> This pervasive atmosphere is nowhere to be seen in the pictures, but of course they had to remind you that these are the ebil commies. My mother was an avid polish communist born and raised in communist Poland and there isn't a communist country that she didn't travel from east Germany to Uzbekistan and Yugoslavia. Yes, as you point out, people living in the Soviet Union were just normal people with their everyday problems: the boss, the colleagues, groceries, buying some new tech (e.g. radio), family, health, etc. I think it is very false to depict secret police as having such a huge role in everyday's Russia life. What was slightly different in Soviet Russia compared to other countries members of the Warsaw Pact is that there was more control on movement. She and my father too recollect how going to some village 80 miles from Moscow had them stopped and controlled for documents and purpose of their trip like 4 times. That tended to fade the further you went and increase around major cities like Moscow. I wouldn't really say secret police had such a huge role in day by day, but the "police state" of control did. Other things that were quite heavily controlled were phone calls. People had all kinds of secret codes when communicating with people abroad because everyone assumed someone was listening and recording. But I really cannot stress how average Ivan didn't really care or felt all of that control nor cared unless he did something heavily (politically) risky. I often ask my family that lived in the Warsaw Pact countries, either in Russia, mostly Poland and Ukraine if they didn't feel there was a lack of freedom, etc, and they all said they didn't care nor think about it at all. They were thinking where to go to vacation, what to prepare for lunch or sporting activities, etc. It should also be noted that all of those countries never experienced a much "different" state of affairs. My grandmother was born in Nazi Germany, her mother under the Haubsburg's Austrian empire, her husband was born in Prussia. And they all were born in a 30 miles radius. There was always a ruler, repression and control. If anything, for those people, communist regimes brought the most freedom and best standard of lives they ever even dreamed of. It only got in the late 70s and early 80s that the system started tracking, people weren't blind and could see that people in western countries had it much better and kept growing while communist countries capped in their economic and social evolution. New generations didn't even remember the Tsarist or Prussian times, they looked at America, at West Germany at France and thought the situation was bad.

southernplaces7 3y ago

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