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We don't know in the sense that we can't know anything for sure that is not the fruit of a controlled experience but we are very confident in the fact that it w

We don't know in the sense that we can't know anything for sure that is not the fruit of a controlled experience but we are very confident in the fact that it was all about a rich childish prick who cannot accept defeat or being denied something he wants and making sure to fleece his supporters one last time. There was no evidence of any real fraud. If there's no evidence it's either a conspiracy to hide it, or that there was no such thing. Thing is, conspiracies are hard to pull off and we end up knowing about them (and nobody really cares and we forget about them, they're called "scandals") I do find myself agreeing on voting machines though.The Last Week Tonight on voting machines was quite something to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svEuG_ekNT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svEuG_ekNT0

chriscjcj 3y ago
I'm assuming the childish prick you're referring to is Hilary Clinton, yes? https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-electi... I'm not trying to start a flame war, but with all due respect, there are ways to discuss the politics and their relevant merits (or lack thereof) without immediately devolving into partisanship.
- cassepipe 3y ago
  Look, I am not an US citizen and I don't support the Democrats either. On the spectrum of political ideas, I even fail to see how Bill Clinton nor Hillary Clinton (or Blair or Schroeder, that kind) counts as "The Left". In most of the world, the Left has been historically defined as people trying to at least get a form of betterment for the working class. I don't think the aforementioned Democrats even ever attempted that. Before Trump's rise, I kind of saw both the Republicans and the Democrats as the mostly the same. So you see in the end, this is not about partisanship, I am just defending my self-enforced sovereign right to call out a rich childish prick who's never had to work a day in his pampered life when he is behaving like one. It's a crazy world where you can't call someone crazy because he's got the crazies' support. That being said, I am against millonnaires even where they are not sociopaths.

chriscjcj 3y ago

I'm assuming the childish prick you're referring to is Hilary Clinton, yes? https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-election-160716779.html https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-maintains-2016-electi... I'm not trying to start a flame war, but with all due respect, there are ways to discuss the politics and their relevant merits (or lack thereof) without immediately devolving into partisanship.

cassepipe 3y ago
Look, I am not an US citizen and I don't support the Democrats either. On the spectrum of political ideas, I even fail to see how Bill Clinton nor Hillary Clinton (or Blair or Schroeder, that kind) counts as "The Left". In most of the world, the Left has been historically defined as people trying to at least get a form of betterment for the working class. I don't think the aforementioned Democrats even ever attempted that. Before Trump's rise, I kind of saw both the Republicans and the Democrats as the mostly the same. So you see in the end, this is not about partisanship, I am just defending my self-enforced sovereign right to call out a rich childish prick who's never had to work a day in his pampered life when he is behaving like one. It's a crazy world where you can't call someone crazy because he's got the crazies' support. That being said, I am against millonnaires even where they are not sociopaths.