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Ah so Russia is a communist country?
by worstestes 3y ago
Ah so Russia is a communist country?
- matheusmoreira 3y agoIt was once. Lula literally wants to turn South America into a southern Soviet Union. Not even kidding.
- anthk 3y agoThat's bullshit, sorry.
- matheusmoreira 3y agoSigh. Is it news to you that this guy's a socialist? He literally called himself "a refined socialist" last year before the elections. Why do I have to keep reminding people of this fact? He literally founded a forum for south american communists to gather and discuss how to install this cancer everywhere. There's fucking decades old videos of him talking about installing socialism in Brazil. It's seriously tiresome having to say this stuff over and over every single time.
- anthk 3y agoI'm from Spain. Lula it's closer to our current social-democratic goverment than communism. It just happens that you are so right-leaned that you don't even realize what are you looking at.
- matheusmoreira 3y agoI know exactly what I'm looking at: a communist. The brazilian government as a whole might not actually amount to a communist state but it's certainly not for a lack of trying on his part.
- pelasaco 3y agoPlease explain why. Otherwise its just the internet dude saying. We can go through the wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism "Variants of communism have been developed throughout history, including anarcho-communism, Marxist schools of thought, and religious communism, among others. Communism includes a variety of schools of thought, which broadly include Marxism, Leninism, and libertarian communism, as well as the political ideologies grouped around those." So I'm confident the South America Communism/Socialism is as Communism as your Life-style left, where you support 300 genders and drug abuse. They are all communism, which as wikipedia describes: "Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a left-wing to far-left sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement"
- impeplague 3y agoFirst, Lula is adept of the so-called "class conciliation", therefore he is not a communist by any means. Second, Lula is against the idea of a revolution, with makes him a social democrat on the left spectrum, at most. Third, you can't just use US left as a model for the rest of the world. US left (mainly the democrats) is a pale left when placed alongside the Brazillian left, for example.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago> Lula is adept of the so-called "class conciliation", therefore he is not a communist by any means. That he even mentions this marxist class bullshit is bad enough. > Lula is against the idea of a revolution, with makes him a social democrat on the left spectrum, at most. If you actually watch the decades old videos where he explains why he's against it, you'd realize it's because he thinks they don't work as a communist regime installation strategy. His plan is to do it small bits at a time so that nobody notices. Boil the frog slowly so it doesn't jump, as they say. Since he's a cancerous old guy, he's been accelerating his schedule as of late so it's become a lot more obvious.
- jabradoodle 3y agoThis is lazy, learn what communism is; it's not hard.
- anthk 3y ago[flagged]
- matheusmoreira 3y ago[flagged]
- retinaros 3y agohe s gonna reply that democrats and republicans swapped party so the republicans are the racists. the tired tropes of finding reality in twisting history so that it can back up what the hivemmind tells you. lula is a communist, always has been, people seem to forget what he did.
- matheusmoreira 3y agoYeah. It's honestly quite shocking to me that people don't seem to know he's a socialist. As recently as last year, he said words like "the state should determine what citizens need to survive" in front of a camera, literal communist speech on its own and it gets even worse if you consider the complete context of the video. And yet people are incredulous. Every single time that I mention it in passing, the thread degenerates into me bringing up old facts about brazilian politics as if it was news because otherwise I look like an idiot in public. People try to gaslight me and call me a moron for taking the guy's words and actions seriously.
- FreshStart 3y agoIt's a totalitarian oligarchy which is the usual outcome of socialist revolutions. It life's of resources (a surplus of labour force) as it's internal structure prohibit advancing up the economic ladder.
- migf 3y agoCorrect
- arbitrary_name 3y ago[flagged]
- McP 3y agoSigh. Socialism is not a synonym for communism. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
- matheusmoreira 3y agoWhatever. I'm not wasting a single brain cell trying to figure out the academic difference between them. They're history.
- pelasaco 3y agothat will be like the case with Russia and China: The leftist are going to start to call it right. Now Russia and China are Right, not Left anymore. Cuba and Venezuela too. North Korea? radical right! Left for them, today, are just Germany and Norway.
- anthk 3y agoRussia. Left. With Putin. And Aleksander Dugin. Please, don't use drugs.
- pelasaco 3y ago> Russia. Left. With Putin. And Aleksander Dugin. Why do you think he is right? Raised and Educated in the Soviet Union, he tries to revive the soviet union, a socialist/communist dream. > Aleksander Dugin The guy that created the National Bolshevik Party, which historically defended Stalinism? > Please, don't use drugs. I don't do it, that's for communists ;)
- anthk 3y ago>He tries... He tries to revive the damn Tsarist Russia, totally opposite to the Communist values. It's closer to your conservative values. >That's for... Yeah, as cocaine for CEO's in the 70's, very commie like.
- pelasaco 3y agoCocaine was everywhere in the 70s, but mostly the Californian CEOs in the 70s were commies.. so thats kind of inline with what I said.
- anthk 3y agoYou can't be a Commie and a CEO. These were Capitalists. A progressive capitalist, yes, but Right leaned economically. There's nothing Leftie on being a poshy Californian with the pockets full of bucks even if you don't give a shit on any religion or Conservativism. The same way you can't call yourself a vegetarian when you eat a weekly BBQ in a Texan rancho.
- roqi 3y ago> Ah so Russia is a communist country? Russia still represents itself as the successor of the Soviet Union, and hardline communist parties still hold onto the (whitewashed) history of the Soviet Union to validate their existence. Russia's armed forces in Ukraine still fly the Soviet union flag, and Putin's propaganda still holds onto Soviet leaders like Lenin to push their propaganda. To the eyes of hardline communist parties throughout the world, Russia represents the heir of the Soviet Union thus communism, and that's by Putin's design.