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You can critize the process either on the meta level as in first past the post creates a two party system etc. Or you can criticize the execution -- for example

by chx 3y ago

You can critize the process either on the meta level as in first past the post creates a two party system etc. Or you can criticize the execution -- for example, report on the amount of touchscreen machines not working in New Mexico during the election of the younger Bush, etc. I would not equate these factual problems with a completely unfounded, call-for-a-coup outright lies though. Problem is the well documented behavior of YouTube algorithm of feeding similar videos to someone, radicalizing them. Not having any at all is a good way to completely avoid the problem. We do not need to raise more domestic terrorists, there are plenty already.

rightbyte 3y ago
I don't remember Youtube spamming me frinche videos in the extreme direction of what I watch, earlier. Somewhere they messed up their recommendation algorithm. Spotify does not recommend me semi-white power music, even though they got plenty.
sterlind 3y ago
so is the idea that YouTube can take a list of rules, e.g. "don't say the election was stolen," and automatically flag all the videos that break that rule? of course, it'd have to be nuanced enough to distinguish between people debunking claims the election was stolen. even if they play clips from people claiming otherwise. and of course, it shouldn't flag irony.. but it should flag meta-irony like 4chan. this is basically AGI. in the age of LLMs, this might be possible (if not now then soon), but that's terrifying. YouTube can then write rules, in English, and accurately filter/boost/limit ideologies. and wait until other countries start pressuring YouTube to add rules for them - no claiming Taiwan is a country, or criticizing the Saudi royal family. and if the tech isn't that frighteningly sophisticated, anything remotely edgy gets wiped. a childproofed internet, engineered for the lowest common denominator of human. I'm quite progressive politically, but I've seen this kind of narrative control gone quite badly (e.g. early days of covid.) no thank you.
eastbound 3y ago
So Youtube admits it plays a role in legitimating the winning party or not, depending on how fast videos are censored and how long the censorship lasts. If they wanted to play a role in the next election, they would allow videos about vote fraud exactly now, just in case. It is very grave.

by chx 3y ago

rightbyte 3y ago

I don't remember Youtube spamming me frinche videos in the extreme direction of what I watch, earlier. Somewhere they messed up their recommendation algorithm. Spotify does not recommend me semi-white power music, even though they got plenty.

sterlind 3y ago

so is the idea that YouTube can take a list of rules, e.g. "don't say the election was stolen," and automatically flag all the videos that break that rule? of course, it'd have to be nuanced enough to distinguish between people debunking claims the election was stolen. even if they play clips from people claiming otherwise. and of course, it shouldn't flag irony.. but it should flag meta-irony like 4chan. this is basically AGI. in the age of LLMs, this might be possible (if not now then soon), but that's terrifying. YouTube can then write rules, in English, and accurately filter/boost/limit ideologies. and wait until other countries start pressuring YouTube to add rules for them - no claiming Taiwan is a country, or criticizing the Saudi royal family. and if the tech isn't that frighteningly sophisticated, anything remotely edgy gets wiped. a childproofed internet, engineered for the lowest common denominator of human. I'm quite progressive politically, but I've seen this kind of narrative control gone quite badly (e.g. early days of covid.) no thank you.

eastbound 3y ago

So Youtube admits it plays a role in legitimating the winning party or not, depending on how fast videos are censored and how long the censorship lasts. If they wanted to play a role in the next election, they would allow videos about vote fraud exactly now, just in case. It is very grave.