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And I'm kinda tired of blanket chicken littling over privacy from folks who refuse to accept the general situation of the vast majority of people. Eugenics is

by Zetice 3y ago

And I'm kinda tired of blanket chicken littling over privacy from folks who refuse to accept the general situation of the vast majority of people. Eugenics is not a thing modern humans in Western society need to realistically worry about, and the main reason you're not getting the traction you think you should be getting is because you keep pretending like it is. People tune this attitude out, because of how patently absurd it is. The average person operates in their own best interest. The reality is that caring deeply about privacy is not in their best interest, no matter how many boogeymen you try to pull out. It just doesn't come up nearly as often or as severely as you apparently wish.

defrost 3y ago
> Eugenics is not a thing modern humans in Western society need to realistically worry about, Hard disagree, the facts are against you. My father was born in 1935 and is still alive and very healthy, during his lifetime here in Australia, a modern Western Society, a Eugenics based carding and restricted movement system was in force. https://culture.wa.gov.au/feature/perths-prohibited-area https://culture.wa.gov.au/feature/perths-prohibited-area Looking about the world there are still many examples of divided rules for colonists and indigenous peoples, if you're in North America ask your nearest Indigenous American whether any significant issues still hang on bloodlines, you'll hear a range of answers some of which might suprise you. All that aside .. never forget that what has happened in the past can happen in the future and perhaps faster than many expect. With a rise in far right policy and the US still somewhat shocked by the overturning of Roe V Wade with womens search data wrt reproductive health now a hot topic in security and law enforcement it's not at all outlandish to posit that it wouldn't take much to see the emergance of policy to seperate those that are different in some manner .. the intersex, arabs and chinese and have all been recent and current tarets of the US right.
- Zetice 3y ago
  What you’re describing isn’t eugenics, and what you’re fear mongering for isn’t realistic or relevant to 99% of people. You really want to make privacy everyone’s problem, but it simply isn’t.
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    It looks like you need it spelled out very clearly, so here a whole piece on Autralia and eugenics: https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/australias-eugenic-heritage/3244372 https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/aus...
    - Zetice 3y ago
      I don’t think you understand how damaging it is to your argument that you need to refer to events that took place before the invention of the microchip in order to make this point.
makeitdouble 3y ago
> the main reason you're not getting the traction you think you should be getting I'm not sure to understand. What traction ?

by Zetice 3y ago

defrost 3y ago

> Eugenics is not a thing modern humans in Western society need to realistically worry about, Hard disagree, the facts are against you. My father was born in 1935 and is still alive and very healthy, during his lifetime here in Australia, a modern Western Society, a Eugenics based carding and restricted movement system was in force. https://culture.wa.gov.au/feature/perths-prohibited-area https://culture.wa.gov.au/feature/perths-prohibited-area Looking about the world there are still many examples of divided rules for colonists and indigenous peoples, if you're in North America ask your nearest Indigenous American whether any significant issues still hang on bloodlines, you'll hear a range of answers some of which might suprise you. All that aside .. never forget that what has happened in the past can happen in the future and perhaps faster than many expect. With a rise in far right policy and the US still somewhat shocked by the overturning of Roe V Wade with womens search data wrt reproductive health now a hot topic in security and law enforcement it's not at all outlandish to posit that it wouldn't take much to see the emergance of policy to seperate those that are different in some manner .. the intersex, arabs and chinese and have all been recent and current tarets of the US right.

Zetice 3y ago
What you’re describing isn’t eugenics, and what you’re fear mongering for isn’t realistic or relevant to 99% of people. You really want to make privacy everyone’s problem, but it simply isn’t.
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  It looks like you need it spelled out very clearly, so here a whole piece on Autralia and eugenics: https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/australias-eugenic-heritage/3244372 https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/aus...
  - Zetice 3y ago
    I don’t think you understand how damaging it is to your argument that you need to refer to events that took place before the invention of the microchip in order to make this point.

makeitdouble 3y ago

> the main reason you're not getting the traction you think you should be getting I'm not sure to understand. What traction ?