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That is the most egregious cookie popup I've seen. The worst part is it's not immediately obvious what an indifferent user has to click on quickly get rid of it

by nomilk 3y ago

That is the most egregious cookie popup I've seen. The worst part is it's not immediately obvious what an indifferent user has to click on quickly get rid of it, necessitating reading and thinking. https://imgur.com/a/YbRlUSB https://imgur.com/a/YbRlUSB

bruce343434 3y ago
> it's not immediately obvious what an indifferent user has to click on quickly The charitable interpretation is that the irony here was intentional
SuperCuber 3y ago
Are you complaining about the lack of dark patterns that push you to accept all cookies? When that cookie banner opened for me, I thought "finally, one of the moral ones" because all the non essential cookies are turned off by default, and you have two options with the same visual weight to either accept or reject the others.
crtified 3y ago
It popped up, I said Wow. THEN I stopped, and thought: "Hey, waait a minute! Is the article trolling me with a 'difficult problem' here? which I will now proceed to take a long time to 'solve'? because I'm 'intelligent'? well, screw you, troll - I can solve this quickly!", and so, I hastily clicked on something in order to make the popup go away. Thus proving that I'm not intelligent. I win.
- notahacker 3y ago
  The popup does actually feel like a good illustration of the basic phenomena. Average person says "oh look, a cookie popup" and clicks through, possibly choosing randomly between "confirm" and "select all". (People with lower familiarity with cookie popups or the language might get completely stuck) HNer isn't at all intimidated by the wall of text and knows exactly what it mean but reads every word to check they haven't snuck any particularly egregious privacy violations and goes down the rabbit hole of evaluating the likely implications of blocking 'necessary' cookies and the virtues of doing that via the cookie popup or browser plugin before making their selection...
someweirdperson 3y ago
My only complaint is the selection looking like a link (colored/underlined), which my brain associates with GET, which should not change state, but a change of state is required to store the cookie preference. Could we please get an ISO for usability, and regulation that requires compliance?
- wahahah 3y ago
  GETs changing/setting cookies is normal, not generally considered as a part of State in REST. (Should still be styled as a button, however.)
anonymouskimmer 3y ago
An indifferent user learns to click whatever has the word "all" in it.
alpaca128 3y ago
Have you seriously never seen a worse one? Because compared to 99% of all cookie popups I know this one's extremely user friendly. It's the second best variant after the ones explicitly showing an identically styled "reject all" button.
omnicognate 3y ago
It's the best one I've ever seen. Completely free of dark patterns (except maybe the fact that "Select All" and "Confirm Selection" are arguably the wrong way round) and literally the only one I've encountered where I could reject all but necessary cookies with a single click. All the non-essential ones are off by default, and they're not advertising ones anyway.

by nomilk 3y ago

bruce343434 3y ago

> it's not immediately obvious what an indifferent user has to click on quickly The charitable interpretation is that the irony here was intentional

SuperCuber 3y ago

Are you complaining about the lack of dark patterns that push you to accept all cookies? When that cookie banner opened for me, I thought "finally, one of the moral ones" because all the non essential cookies are turned off by default, and you have two options with the same visual weight to either accept or reject the others.

crtified 3y ago

It popped up, I said Wow. THEN I stopped, and thought: "Hey, waait a minute! Is the article trolling me with a 'difficult problem' here? which I will now proceed to take a long time to 'solve'? because I'm 'intelligent'? well, screw you, troll - I can solve this quickly!", and so, I hastily clicked on something in order to make the popup go away. Thus proving that I'm not intelligent. I win.

notahacker 3y ago
The popup does actually feel like a good illustration of the basic phenomena. Average person says "oh look, a cookie popup" and clicks through, possibly choosing randomly between "confirm" and "select all". (People with lower familiarity with cookie popups or the language might get completely stuck) HNer isn't at all intimidated by the wall of text and knows exactly what it mean but reads every word to check they haven't snuck any particularly egregious privacy violations and goes down the rabbit hole of evaluating the likely implications of blocking 'necessary' cookies and the virtues of doing that via the cookie popup or browser plugin before making their selection...

someweirdperson 3y ago

My only complaint is the selection looking like a link (colored/underlined), which my brain associates with GET, which should not change state, but a change of state is required to store the cookie preference. Could we please get an ISO for usability, and regulation that requires compliance?

wahahah 3y ago
GETs changing/setting cookies is normal, not generally considered as a part of State in REST. (Should still be styled as a button, however.)

anonymouskimmer 3y ago

An indifferent user learns to click whatever has the word "all" in it.

alpaca128 3y ago

Have you seriously never seen a worse one? Because compared to 99% of all cookie popups I know this one's extremely user friendly. It's the second best variant after the ones explicitly showing an identically styled "reject all" button.

omnicognate 3y ago

It's the best one I've ever seen. Completely free of dark patterns (except maybe the fact that "Select All" and "Confirm Selection" are arguably the wrong way round) and literally the only one I've encountered where I could reject all but necessary cookies with a single click. All the non-essential ones are off by default, and they're not advertising ones anyway.