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> Singapore has some barbaric laws incompatible with modern society. Many times a year, they put to death people for drug related offenses (even cannabis), almo
by throwaway2990 3y ago
> Singapore has some barbaric laws incompatible with modern society. Many times a year, they put to death people for drug related offenses (even cannabis), almost always poor people.
Nothing to do with people being poor. Majority of those executed are foreigners coming into the country.
https://youtu.be/-PXAOZwvv04 https://youtu.be/-PXAOZwvv04
You can argue cannabis is harmless but that’s simply not true. Most studies that look at long term usage conclude it affects the brain.
- drsnow 3y agoLiterally everything "affects the brain"
- jeswin 3y ago> You can argue cannabis is harmless but that’s simply not true. Most studies that look at long term usage conclude it affects the brain. Let's assume this is true. Nobody is saying they needn't be punished, but put them to death? > https://youtu.be/-PXAOZwvv04 https://youtu.be/-PXAOZwvv04 LKY says in the video: "In America they're changing their minds and sending people back to the death row." Yeah, but not for this.
- throwaway2990 3y ago> Let's assume this is true. Nobody is saying they needn't be punished, but put them to death? There’s warning before you get off the plane. Warnings when you get off the plane. Warnings when you go through customs.
- bunga-bunga 3y agoThat’s not an argument for the death penalty. Are you saying that it’s ok to kill people for whatever reason as long as they’re informed?
- throwawayb3223 3y ago[dead]
- Redoubts 3y ago> for whatever reason But there's a very specific reason here, and it's easy to avoid.
- jusonchan81 3y agoNo one is put to death for personal use. Only if you possess large enough quantities that makes you a dealer peddling typically peddling cannabis to large groups of people including underage kids. I personally don't believe in death penalty and I hope it's abolished entirely. But facts needs to be stated with clarity. Also Lee Kwan Yew is a legend. An absolute hero for bringing this country to where it is today. This is just my personal opinion, probably unpopular, but let me be free to state what I feel. And to add - as of 2013 - laws have changed, death penalty rules are changing. Not changing fast enough, but changing. Hopefully they abolish it entirely asap.
- scheeseman486 3y agoYou know what else affects the brain in a negative way? Execution.
- throwaway2990 3y ago[flagged]
- scheeseman486 3y agoWow. Sucks that the nice lady who sells me my weed I get under prescription at my local chemist is someone you think should die.
- throwaway2990 3y ago[flagged]
- scheeseman486 3y agoMaybe the reason why people are so miserable in your country is because they execute people. Drug use is a symptom, not a cause. A society that devalues life to the point normalizing of ending of it can never be a happy one. People abuse drugs to escape, what do you think they're trying to escape from? If it's the drugs and the dissemination of them that you find are objectionable enough to murder those who participate, my nice pharmacy lady is just as guilty. You want her to die, or you're a hypocrite.
- rayiner 3y agoWhat makes you think people are “miserable?” East Asia has the lowest percentage of people who say they desire to emigrate elsewhere out of anywhere in the world: https://news.gallup.com/poll/468218/nearly-900-million-worldwide-wanted-migrate-2021.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/468218/nearly-900-million-world.... Just 4%, versus 15% in North America.
- defrost 3y ago> Most studies that look at long term usage conclude it affects the brain. I take it then you're also in favour of the death penalty for alcohol consumption, distribution, and production then? It would certainly be hypocritical if that were not the case.
- scheeseman486 3y agoAlmost any type of contact sport too. Martial arts, boxing, football, all proven to cause permanent damage even when protection is worn.
- SamReidHughes 3y agoSports are virtuous, drunkenness is not.
- scheeseman486 3y agoBrain damage is virtuous to those that are probably brain damaged.
- rayiner 3y ago“One bad thing is too deeply rooted in society to remove, so we have to accept a different bad thing and allow it to take root?”
- defrost 3y agoIf that's the comment that you wish to make then by all means do so. Adding quotes and a question mark makes it appear is if you are paraphrasing the comment that I made which I'd kindly ask you not to do as I can speak for myself and that's not what I stated.
- scheeseman486 3y agoAlcohol and tobacco are empirically worse than cannabis, which is just as rooted in society. The choices of what is legal and what isn't came down to class and politics, not medical evidence. So yes? Acceptance, regulation and social safety nets are probably the way to go for a lot of drugs. The alternative is to indefinitely fight an unwinnable war, to perpetuate a cycle of death and murder seemingly oblivious that the fight itself and the consequences of a punitive system are the things taking most of those lives, not the drugs.
- awongh 3y agoif harmful/harmless were the real test, the government would ban alcohol. But that’s not the real reason. Just like drug laws everywhere, it’s more about controlling a certain demographic of the population (i.e. poor people) The fact that people in singapore still equate marijuana use to “harmful” “mind altering” “bad drugs” becomes more and more ridiculous as it gets legalized elsewhere. We’ll see what happens with thailand. As if for some reason asians can’t be allowed marijuana while it’s fine for white people.
- throwawayb3223 3y ago[dead]
- throwaway2990 3y agoThey ban you drinking in public places. People used to drink on the bridge at Clark quay but that’s banned now. There’s less out of control people there now. Alcohol can only be purchased during certain hours.
- sterlind 3y agobut alcohol actually kills people, unlike weed. and causes actual long-term damage, physical dependence, etc. just admit that the reason your country permits alcohol and executes weed smugglers is because alcohol is part of your culture and weed isn't.
- throwaway2990 3y agoWeed has long term damage. It’s easy to make alcohol at home. It’s not easy to grow weed at home. But keep trying.
- JackeJR 3y agoDo you drink coffee?
- throwaway2990 3y agoIn typical dang authoritarian fashion I’m rate limited because discussion and opinions are censored on HN.