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Not to mention all the major powers had committed similar atrocities in their own pasts, and they all were racing to collect Nazi/Japanese scientists.

rajin444 3y ago
Weren't they in the process of committing some as these trials were ongoing? I don't think there's a reliable number, but certainly 6 figure and likely 7 figure death tolls for ethnic Germans due to postwar resettlements etc.
- boppo1 3y ago
  This sounds sorta lost-cause-y. 1,000,000 civilians killed in postwar orchestrations?
  - ekianjo 3y ago
    Yes an awful lot of civilians died after the war for numerous reasons. People rarely talk about it.
  - oneshtein 3y ago
    11 millions were killed and 25 millions were starved to death by Soviets prior to the war. ("Svoboda" Oct 04 1941 [0]). 0: http://web.archive.org/web/20160709210523/https://www.svoboda-news.com/arxiv/pdf/1941/Svoboda-1941-229.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20160709210523/https://www.svobod...
- hef19898 3y ago
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lostlogin 3y ago
> all the major powers had committed similar atrocities in their own pasts The Soviets for sure, but are you really arguing that the US and UK (and Empire) were operating on the same industrial level? Incidents that come to mind for me would include the Bengal famine, and it was terrible, but it wasn't the systematic and controlled killing at which the Soviets and Nazis became so expert. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-churchill-policies-contributed-to-1943-bengal-famine-study https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-church... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943
- hn976827 3y ago
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- sillywalk 3y ago
  The very idea of non-whites as sub-humans to be exploited was almost universal in Europe. The genocide of indigenous people, human experiments, eugenics, the whole process of colonization, any number of massacres. The Brits invented the modern concentration camp during the Boer War, see also the Opium Wars. The Philippines War, Banana Wars, Nobody is a saint, it seems to be the story of 'civilization'.

rajin444 3y ago

Weren't they in the process of committing some as these trials were ongoing? I don't think there's a reliable number, but certainly 6 figure and likely 7 figure death tolls for ethnic Germans due to postwar resettlements etc.

boppo1 3y ago
This sounds sorta lost-cause-y. 1,000,000 civilians killed in postwar orchestrations?
- ekianjo 3y ago
  Yes an awful lot of civilians died after the war for numerous reasons. People rarely talk about it.
- oneshtein 3y ago
  11 millions were killed and 25 millions were starved to death by Soviets prior to the war. ("Svoboda" Oct 04 1941 [0]). 0: http://web.archive.org/web/20160709210523/https://www.svoboda-news.com/arxiv/pdf/1941/Svoboda-1941-229.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20160709210523/https://www.svobod...
hef19898 3y ago
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lostlogin 3y ago

> all the major powers had committed similar atrocities in their own pasts The Soviets for sure, but are you really arguing that the US and UK (and Empire) were operating on the same industrial level? Incidents that come to mind for me would include the Bengal famine, and it was terrible, but it wasn't the systematic and controlled killing at which the Soviets and Nazis became so expert. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-churchill-policies-contributed-to-1943-bengal-famine-study https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-church... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943

hn976827 3y ago
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sillywalk 3y ago
The very idea of non-whites as sub-humans to be exploited was almost universal in Europe. The genocide of indigenous people, human experiments, eugenics, the whole process of colonization, any number of massacres. The Brits invented the modern concentration camp during the Boer War, see also the Opium Wars. The Philippines War, Banana Wars, Nobody is a saint, it seems to be the story of 'civilization'.