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Why can you safely assume that? They've already released videos they couldn't explain which had very easy explanations. The US military isn't in the UFO debunki

Why can you safely assume that? They've already released videos they couldn't explain which had very easy explanations. The US military isn't in the UFO debunking business. They're in the blowing things up business.

maxbond 3y ago
And indeed, US intelligence has historically been in the "deliberately stoke UFO (UAP) conspiracy theories to protect our intelligence interests" business. I don't wanna be one of those people on the internet who says everything is a psyop, but when the US government produces evidence of UAPs, historically it has been, and our prior should be that it's misinformation probably meant to sabotage some other nation's intelligence efforts in a manner we don't have the context to understand (if I had to take a guess, which I'm not particularly qualified to do, by pretending they've been so thoroughly bamboozled by the current generation of aerial surveillance platforms that they think it's aliens, thereby delaying the deployment of improved craft. It's not a particularly compelling hypothesis, it's just the one I am aware of which I judge most likely.).
flandish 3y ago
Right. They’re also in the “manufacture consent” business - and UAPs mean “possible enemy tech we need to race to beat,” when needed as a reason. The military is not into scientific rigor as much as it is into blowing things up and supporting contractors while chasing/developing tech. We are conveniently in arms races with: China, Russia, etc.. and starting a most likely terrible election cycle with lots of new tech to be used. It follows that UAP concerns can easily pivot into “enemy tech” arms races, when necessary.
- mhoad 3y ago
  I mean one of the pretty clear implications of that research is that there is a real chance those are Chinese aircraft that have figured out how to avoid radar detection and even most close range observation. If that does turn out to be true it’s a major turning point in world history as the US discovers they are now are no longer the most powerful airforce in the world and has some very real and very serious knock on effects that come with it.
runjake 3y ago
Well, first because they mentioned these UAPs were detected by multiple sensor systems, both in this article and the articles about the past videos you're referring to. And second, from my own personal experience working in this area. We saw anomalous stuff on visuals/FLIR all the time. When you start seeing stuff on visuals/FLIR and radar/lidar/sonar/etc systems, then it's definitely worth a decent look.

maxbond 3y ago

And indeed, US intelligence has historically been in the "deliberately stoke UFO (UAP) conspiracy theories to protect our intelligence interests" business. I don't wanna be one of those people on the internet who says everything is a psyop, but when the US government produces evidence of UAPs, historically it has been, and our prior should be that it's misinformation probably meant to sabotage some other nation's intelligence efforts in a manner we don't have the context to understand (if I had to take a guess, which I'm not particularly qualified to do, by pretending they've been so thoroughly bamboozled by the current generation of aerial surveillance platforms that they think it's aliens, thereby delaying the deployment of improved craft. It's not a particularly compelling hypothesis, it's just the one I am aware of which I judge most likely.).

flandish 3y ago

Right. They’re also in the “manufacture consent” business - and UAPs mean “possible enemy tech we need to race to beat,” when needed as a reason. The military is not into scientific rigor as much as it is into blowing things up and supporting contractors while chasing/developing tech. We are conveniently in arms races with: China, Russia, etc.. and starting a most likely terrible election cycle with lots of new tech to be used. It follows that UAP concerns can easily pivot into “enemy tech” arms races, when necessary.

mhoad 3y ago
I mean one of the pretty clear implications of that research is that there is a real chance those are Chinese aircraft that have figured out how to avoid radar detection and even most close range observation. If that does turn out to be true it’s a major turning point in world history as the US discovers they are now are no longer the most powerful airforce in the world and has some very real and very serious knock on effects that come with it.

runjake 3y ago

Well, first because they mentioned these UAPs were detected by multiple sensor systems, both in this article and the articles about the past videos you're referring to. And second, from my own personal experience working in this area. We saw anomalous stuff on visuals/FLIR all the time. When you start seeing stuff on visuals/FLIR and radar/lidar/sonar/etc systems, then it's definitely worth a decent look.