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I'm writing this from my car as I wait to have my state safety inspection done. My car has a traction control system which is enabled. Just pushed the TCS butto

by tssva 3y ago

I'm writing this from my car as I wait to have my state safety inspection done. My car has a traction control system which is enabled. Just pushed the TCS button. It was enabled and now it is disabled. Just pushed the button again. It was disabled and now it is enabled. I can switch freely between each state and in neither case does the description of the state require quotes around it.

FireBeyond 3y ago
In most cars, TCS enable/disable is not really as concrete as it sounds, but more "allow more wheel slippage/spin from stopped" for snow/mud scenarios. Even with it 'nominally off', it's still there and working hard. On certain performance cars, it's actually a three stage system. On my Audi RS 5, there's the same thing as you describe. And then if I push, and hold, TCS for five seconds, it goes fully off (for race days and such).
lannisterstark 3y ago
Considering your car's (most average cars) TCS never really gets fully disabled... Yeah, your word needs quotes even more.
remram 3y ago
I can't tell what point you're trying to make and yet it seems wrong.
- tssva 3y ago
  The point is that just because something is enabled at some point doesn't mean it can't be disabled at a later point. The original poster didn't seem to think ME is really disabled just because at some point it was enabled.
  - remram 3y ago
    Did you miss the whole part about the boot process? It was the second sentence. You could only think they said that "just because" it you only read the first sentence of their comment.
    - tssva 3y ago
      I read the whole comment. The implication was that it wasn't really disabled because at some point it was enabled.
      - remram 3y ago
        What makes you think that? The explicit, not-implied argument is that it enabled because it "is impossible to boot a modern Intel x86 system without it". Of course if you ignore arguments entirely, other people's opinions become arbitrary. But that's all you.
Brian_K_White 3y ago
Of course it does. That is exactly another example of something that doesn't actually do what it says.

by tssva 3y ago

FireBeyond 3y ago

In most cars, TCS enable/disable is not really as concrete as it sounds, but more "allow more wheel slippage/spin from stopped" for snow/mud scenarios. Even with it 'nominally off', it's still there and working hard. On certain performance cars, it's actually a three stage system. On my Audi RS 5, there's the same thing as you describe. And then if I push, and hold, TCS for five seconds, it goes fully off (for race days and such).

lannisterstark 3y ago

Considering your car's (most average cars) TCS never really gets fully disabled... Yeah, your word needs quotes even more.

remram 3y ago

I can't tell what point you're trying to make and yet it seems wrong.

tssva 3y ago
The point is that just because something is enabled at some point doesn't mean it can't be disabled at a later point. The original poster didn't seem to think ME is really disabled just because at some point it was enabled.
- remram 3y ago
  Did you miss the whole part about the boot process? It was the second sentence. You could only think they said that "just because" it you only read the first sentence of their comment.
  - tssva 3y ago
    I read the whole comment. The implication was that it wasn't really disabled because at some point it was enabled.
    - remram 3y ago
      What makes you think that? The explicit, not-implied argument is that it enabled because it "is impossible to boot a modern Intel x86 system without it". Of course if you ignore arguments entirely, other people's opinions become arbitrary. But that's all you.

Brian_K_White 3y ago

Of course it does. That is exactly another example of something that doesn't actually do what it says.