The same claims have been made in the past. Europe was out of wood, coal smoke was choking cities, disease was insurmountable, environmental issues in the 60s/7

The same claims have been made in the past. Europe was out of wood, coal smoke was choking cities, disease was insurmountable, environmental issues in the 60s/70s, ozone depletion, looming extinction of charismatic species, and so on. > the green revolution allowing us to feed people by basically converting petroleum products into agricultural yiel The green revolution was largely about shuttle breeding in wheat, corn, and rice. Higher yields mean less land can be used for agriculture. Were we see most biodiversity loss and deforestation, people are subsistence farming, engaging in slash and burn agriculture, and using unimproved seeds/methods. > You can't eat cheap electricity provided by solar panels, You can split water and force the H2 under pressure to combine with atmospheric nitrogen and create 0 CO2 fertilizer. So you kind of can eat cheap electricity once its cheap enough. > that WE MUST GROW at all costs Economic growth isn't tethered to land use anymore and is increasingly detached from CO2 emissions. A few centuries what little economic growth that existed required grain and wood. Economic growth makes us richer, and that extra accumulated wealth allows us to do things like environmental protections. You see the world over, as countries become richer they devote more resources to environmental protection. > I think its pretty clear that there is no sustainable QUALITY of life at 9 billion That isn't clear at all. Paul Ehrlich predicted that 6-7 billion people would lead to mass starvation, yet food insecurity is at an all time low. The Club of Rome predicted we would be out of resources by 1992. You're making the argument that people made about the end of whale oil. The mistake is that thinking resources are fixed and finite arrangements of particular atoms in the ground, rather than the application of human ingenuity to raw inputs. Oil was originally useless black gunk. I'm not denying that there are problems and that there will be consequences of the old carbon economy. I'm not saying that habitat loss isn't a problem. I'm am however pointing out that these are solvable problems and a lot of very capable people are hard at work. Low and no carbon energy is now a solved technical problem and has become merely an infrastructure challenge. That's pretty amazing. Agriculture isn't standing still, there are a ton of gains to be had in land use. Society has managed to solve a lot of hard problems, we have the ability here.