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I think you're severely overestimating the abilities of this "AI" and underestimating the abilities of the human mind here :-) However, if you'd like to be pes

I think you're severely overestimating the abilities of this "AI" and underestimating the abilities of the human mind here :-) However, if you'd like to be pessimistic on it I won't argue, I have that tendency too ;) And to lighten up the mood, I highly recommend listening to this episode with Gary Marcus, where he invites experts in the field of humor to discuss how distinctly bad the LLMs are at explaining what comes naturally to us: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/can-ai-make-you-laugh/id1532110146?i=1000613196164 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/can-ai-make-you-laugh/...

tivert 3y ago
> I think you're severely overestimating the abilities of this "AI" and underestimating the abilities of the human mind here :-) "This AI" seems perfectly capable of resulting of extending the kind of economic immiseration that has already affected many blue collar jobs into many types of white collar work (ironically enough, the kind of work those blue collar workers were told to pick up). Past this iteration of AI, who knows if the advances will peter out, but it's foolish to assume things will be fine because other things were adapted to in the past. That's kinda like assuming you won't die before having kids because none of your ancestors did.
- dinvlad 3y ago
  As said, I won't argue with pessimism here, but I think there're equally as many (if not more) causes for optimism ;)
  - tivert 3y ago
    > I think there're equally as many (if not more) causes for optimism ;) List them.
    - dinvlad 3y ago
      I won't engage any further. I see that I won't be able to convince you in the opposite, so there's no reason for me to try to "defend" my argument :-) And your "command" is kinda rude, regardless.
      - tivert 3y ago
        > I won't engage any further. I see that I won't be able to convince you in the opposite, so there's no reason for me to try to "defend" my argument :-) And your "command" is kinda rude, regardless. You mainly been making vague, unsupported assertions backed by emoticons. It's a stretch to call that an "argument," and arguable you haven't been really engaging from the start. I don't think you can convince me because I suspect you don't really have any support or specifics for your position to provide.
        dinvlad 3y ago
        As a matter of fact I do, if you read my comments in other threads, before jumping to conclusions without knowing me. Regardless, I flagged your comment since it really doesn’t follow HN etiquette on respectful arguments.
        tivert 3y ago
        > As a matter of fact I do, if you read my comments in other threads, before jumping to conclusions without knowing me. Come on. If you have them formulated, you should have responded with them. It's not that hard. > Regardless, I flagged your comment since it really doesn’t follow HN etiquette on respectful arguments. Again, come on. The disrespectful thing is expecting someone to go on a scavenger hunt just to find out what you, some internet rando, should be saying in your half of a conversation thread. It's also just bizarre for you to note you flagged my comment. Am I supposed feel intimidated or ashamed or something?

tivert 3y ago

> I think you're severely overestimating the abilities of this "AI" and underestimating the abilities of the human mind here :-) "This AI" seems perfectly capable of resulting of extending the kind of economic immiseration that has already affected many blue collar jobs into many types of white collar work (ironically enough, the kind of work those blue collar workers were told to pick up). Past this iteration of AI, who knows if the advances will peter out, but it's foolish to assume things will be fine because other things were adapted to in the past. That's kinda like assuming you won't die before having kids because none of your ancestors did.

dinvlad 3y ago
As said, I won't argue with pessimism here, but I think there're equally as many (if not more) causes for optimism ;)
- tivert 3y ago
  > I think there're equally as many (if not more) causes for optimism ;) List them.
  - dinvlad 3y ago
    I won't engage any further. I see that I won't be able to convince you in the opposite, so there's no reason for me to try to "defend" my argument :-) And your "command" is kinda rude, regardless.
    - tivert 3y ago
      > I won't engage any further. I see that I won't be able to convince you in the opposite, so there's no reason for me to try to "defend" my argument :-) And your "command" is kinda rude, regardless. You mainly been making vague, unsupported assertions backed by emoticons. It's a stretch to call that an "argument," and arguable you haven't been really engaging from the start. I don't think you can convince me because I suspect you don't really have any support or specifics for your position to provide.
      - dinvlad 3y ago
        As a matter of fact I do, if you read my comments in other threads, before jumping to conclusions without knowing me. Regardless, I flagged your comment since it really doesn’t follow HN etiquette on respectful arguments.
        tivert 3y ago
        > As a matter of fact I do, if you read my comments in other threads, before jumping to conclusions without knowing me. Come on. If you have them formulated, you should have responded with them. It's not that hard. > Regardless, I flagged your comment since it really doesn’t follow HN etiquette on respectful arguments. Again, come on. The disrespectful thing is expecting someone to go on a scavenger hunt just to find out what you, some internet rando, should be saying in your half of a conversation thread. It's also just bizarre for you to note you flagged my comment. Am I supposed feel intimidated or ashamed or something?