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The woman's legal saga dates back to January 2022, when the health department resorted to court orders to try to get her to treat her deadly infection—or at lea

The woman's legal saga dates back to January 2022, when the health department resorted to court orders to try to get her to treat her deadly infection—or at least prevent her from readily spreading it in the community. A reminder of the oft overlooked social component of health issues.

ProAm 3y ago
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- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  I'm a huge believer in your body, your choice. I'm also a huge believer in "Your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins."
  - bunderbunder 3y ago
    No, it doesn’t. That saying is such crap. Threatening people with bodily harm is not as bad as actually harming them, but it’s still both illegal and immoral. Swinging your fist at someone’s face but stopping just short of actually hitting them is generally also considered assault.
    - DoreenMichele 3y ago
      I think most people don't interpret it that way. It's just shorthand for "You are free to do whatever you like -- until you start hurting other people, and then your freedom argument stops working."
  - candiodari 3y ago
    The fact that she refused all contact with authorities seems to indicate that part of the problem is how many fists have ended up in her face before this incident. I would like to point out that if the trend of authorities not being trusted (and frankly, of authorities behaving untrustworthy) doesn't reverse, the number of undetected cases will multiply to the point that force won't be an option.
    - DoreenMichele 3y ago
      From what I gather, she's so sick that it's possible the infection is interfering with her thinking. Whatever her tragic backstory, history of trauma, instances of injustice, she's currently a threat to public health and I think most people will feel the authorities are in the right to detain her at this point.
- smt88 3y ago
  It is her body and her choice until it infringes on other people's bodies and choices. The people she's exposing to TB have no way to choose to avoid her. She's forcing a dangerous illness on them without their knowledge or consent. She was given a choice to stay at home and she decided to go out and endanger others instead.
- foxyv 3y ago
  Just because your foot is a part of your body, doesn't mean you get to kick people. If she wants to have untreated TB voluntarily, she should take reasonable precautions to not infect others.

ProAm 3y ago

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DoreenMichele 3y ago
I'm a huge believer in your body, your choice. I'm also a huge believer in "Your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins."
- bunderbunder 3y ago
  No, it doesn’t. That saying is such crap. Threatening people with bodily harm is not as bad as actually harming them, but it’s still both illegal and immoral. Swinging your fist at someone’s face but stopping just short of actually hitting them is generally also considered assault.
  - DoreenMichele 3y ago
    I think most people don't interpret it that way. It's just shorthand for "You are free to do whatever you like -- until you start hurting other people, and then your freedom argument stops working."
- candiodari 3y ago
  The fact that she refused all contact with authorities seems to indicate that part of the problem is how many fists have ended up in her face before this incident. I would like to point out that if the trend of authorities not being trusted (and frankly, of authorities behaving untrustworthy) doesn't reverse, the number of undetected cases will multiply to the point that force won't be an option.
  - DoreenMichele 3y ago
    From what I gather, she's so sick that it's possible the infection is interfering with her thinking. Whatever her tragic backstory, history of trauma, instances of injustice, she's currently a threat to public health and I think most people will feel the authorities are in the right to detain her at this point.
smt88 3y ago
It is her body and her choice until it infringes on other people's bodies and choices. The people she's exposing to TB have no way to choose to avoid her. She's forcing a dangerous illness on them without their knowledge or consent. She was given a choice to stay at home and she decided to go out and endanger others instead.
foxyv 3y ago
Just because your foot is a part of your body, doesn't mean you get to kick people. If she wants to have untreated TB voluntarily, she should take reasonable precautions to not infect others.