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Having met programmers, I have no such expectation. My long experience is that they care quite a lot about debug information changes; and barely know any of th
by JdeBP 3y ago
Having met programmers, I have no such expectation. My long experience is that they care quite a lot about debug information changes; and barely know any of the people involved in language designs and compiler implementations.
Your expectations seem to be based upon the idea that when it comes to Rust the "Hackers" who read Hacker News aren't like programmers, and the "News" is tantamount to soap opera. That's a shame if true.
- coldtea 3y ago>My long experience is that they care quite a lot about debug information changes; and barely know any of the people involved in language designs and compiler implementations. Not sure which "programmers" you met in your "long experience" that never cared about language designs and compiler implementations. Corporate programming drones? People doing CRUD apps who don't care for the history, lore, and ongoing developments in language design? Yeah, most programmers are like that. Not the kind of programmers that would frequent HN, Lambda the Ultimate, and such websites, though. So you probably never met HN crowd programmers then, who can do both program and debate language designs and compiler implementations, worship people from Chuck Moore and McCarthy to Rich Hickey, SPJ, Joe Armstrong, and Alan Kay, and can even walk and chew gum at the same time. Probably also missed the fact that the first line of people involved in the case, and in publicizing and discussing the case are not just developers but core Rust contributors - hardly "tech bros" or managers types you can dismiss as "no programmers".
- JdeBP 3y agoBy missing the words "the people involved in" whilst even quoting them, you have constructed quite a lengthy and rather foolish straw man.